Absolare Integrated

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Most SET's have high output impedance - around 2 ~5 ohms. This only means that you must choose proper speakers, not that they have "limitations" at frequency extremes. Surely if your definition of "real world speaker" is a low effciency, current hungry speaker optimized for solid state amplifiers, SET cannot ...

BTW, just by curiosity, do you know what is the output impedance of the Absolare integrated? I could not find it in the specifications.
Hi there I happen to know since I asked the designer once. Output impedance is about 0.05 ohm.

Cheers

Guillaume
 
Jan 23, 2018
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Recently my absolare inti. came back to me.

3rd July, my son spreaded water to my amp. When I turn it on I could hear noisy.
That day, I sent it to my korean dealer.

After a week, they said it works well even there was some oil overflow from capacitors.
I requested to send it with my telefucken tubes to absolare in US, I thought just replacing capacotors.
After absolare checked it, they said there were some crossion at 30% of pre part and 70% of power amplifier part, even power block and others were ok. The repairing cost was too high, they suggested me to upgrade from passion to signiture.

I was much surprised. If their validation was true, their suggestion was reasonable.
But it overed my budget. Because I had expected just replacing caps.
I'm an engineer also, I couldn't believe the water made the corrosion, theoretically possible, but not happen in real.
I asked several things and requested to discount.

Then Absolare suddenly cut off direct connection with me, I had to talk to them through korean dealer.
I requested the detail of corrosion and pictures, but finally I couldn't get anything.

After some months, I got the money to upgrade and sent it.
I could get signature inti at the end of Oct.
But I could hear noise at R-channel and some volume control trouble.
I asked it to my dealer then they asked it to absolare, they said to check my tube eventhough they already confirmed the tube was ok.
After several trials with my tube and original rt-tube, all failed. So I re-sent it to my korean dealer.
They checked it by themselves and foun d out the volume has failed. then replaced it.

When they checked it, one guy heard some strange noise at R-channel after 2-days burning.
They rechecked it again, but couldn't find out any reason. the aging 1-week, it was ok.

It returned to me in Dec.
At same time absolare sent me tubes one of Ten's 12bh7 and one of NEC's channel master.
They commented that those were very special SQ and apply it each input(left) and output(right).
Input & output? why not Left & Right? Is it possible to use different tubes for L & R ?
I was so confused and asked it. But Absolare does not answered anything again.

Anyway I applied it as their comment, its SQ was really better than their original RT tubes.
Similar nuance but much more clear, focusing, dynamic and musical. But it has an audible white noise at R-channel.
Untill this time all problem was happend at R-chnnel, I was restless.

After some weeks, from mid of Jan, after burning, the white noise was gone, and it works well without any of strange symptom.
I'm not sure how signature is better than passion, because there were so many issues for 6~7 months.


Anyway, now, every thing is OK.
I think absolare is enough good as a inti-amplifier. And they worked well officialy. But not well humanly.
Accident would be happened to anyone. Man is easy to get angry, sad, .... in front of any accident.

In this article, I hope to apologyze to Absolare if I was too nervous or rude.
But If they had tried to understand me more and did not ignore small korean, it would be better.
 
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christoph

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Recently my absolare inti. came back to me.

3rd July, my son spreaded water to my amp. When I turn it on I could hear noisy.
That day I sent it to my korean dealer.

After a week they said it works well even there was some oil overflow from capacitors.
I requested to send it with my telefucken tubes to absolare in US, I thought just replacing capacotors.
After absolare checked it, they said there were some crossion at 30% of pre part and 70% of power amplifier part, even power block and others were ok. The repairing cost was too high, they suggested me to upgrade from passion to signiture.

I was much surprised. If their validation was true, their suggestion is reasonable.
But it overed my budget. Because I had exected just replacing caps.
I'm an engineer also, I couldn't believe the water made the corrosion, theoretically possible, but not happen in real.
I asked several things and requested to discount.

Then Absolare suddenly cut of direct connection with me, I had to talk to them through their dealer.
I requested the detail of corrosion and pictures, but finally I couldn't get it.

After some months, I got the money to upgrade and sent it.
I could get signature inti at the end of Oct.
But I could hear noise at R-channel and some volume control trouble.
I asked it to my dealer they asked it to absolare, they said to check my tube eventhough they already confirmed the tube was ok.
After several trials with my tube and original rt-tube, all failed. So I re-sent it to my korean dealer.
They checked it by themselves and foun dout the volume has failed. then replaced it.

When they check it, one guy heard some strange noise at R-channel after 2-days burning.
They rechecked it again, but couldn't find out any reason. the aging 1-week, it was ok.

It returned to me in Dec.
At the same time absolare sent me tubes one of Ten's 12bh7 and one of NEC's channel master.
with a comment that has very special SQ and apply it each input(left) and output(right).
Input & output? why not Left & Right? Is it possible to use different tubes for L & R ?
I was so confused and asked it. But Absolare does not answered anything.

Any I applied it as their comment, Its SQ was really better than their original RT tubes.
Similar nuance but much more clear, focusing, dynamic and musical. But it has a white noise at R-channel.
Untill now all problem was happend at R-chnnel, I was restless.

After some weeks, from mid of Jan, after burning, the white noise was gone, and it works well without any of strange symptom.
I'm not sure how signature is better than passion, because there were so many issues for 6~7 months.


Anyway, now, every thing is OK.
I think absolare is enough good as a inti-amplifier. And they worked well officialy. But not well humanly.
Accident would be happened to anyone. Man is easy to get angry, sad, .... in front of so accident.

In this article, I hope to apologyze to Absolare if I was too nervous and rude.
But If they had tried to understand me more and did not ignore small korean, it would be better.
Sorry to hear about your tale of woe :eek:
 
Jan 23, 2018
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As I said above, absolare sent me tubes each of Ten's 12bh7 and NEC's channel master 12bh7.
It was really really good. much deep and natural bass, detail texture, Black background color... eventhouth high was a little hash and focusing was not clear, those tubes were absolutely better than my old telefunken or RT's bundle.

But someday, ten's tube has broken. I tested 3~4 kinds of sylvania's 12bh7. I disappointed because the result was not so agreeable.

Yesterday, I got a news, absolare uses 12bh7 for their new mono-blocks amp.
Is there anyone to know the brand ?
 
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I'm still testing 12BH7.
RCA's 12BH7 was also good eventhough it is not in same league with Ten&CM combi.

But it made same symptom.
After I use it 1-months, L-ch made a high freq. noise after heating. When I power on, it is ok for 1-hour, then I could hear the high freq. noise.
Ten&CM was same. Always L-ch tube has that noise.

12bh7 is more hot than 12au7, but I'm not sure why.
Is there anyone to use 12bh7 on Absolare?
 
Tube problems follow the tube. If a tube is bad, and you switch tubes, the problem will follow the tube. If there is a non-tube problem in that channel, the problem will remain in that channel and not follow the tube. It sounds like the latter is the case in your situation. There is a thread on Audio Asylum right now on this topic, and several very knowledgeable, experienced individuals suggested cleaning and re-tensioning the tube pins on the offending side.
 
Sep 11, 2019
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Hi all,
New to Absolare, and loving it. It just sounds whole and rich. Moved from Devialet expert pro; I like devialet (unlike some) and was looking to upgrade to a1000 pro, but got sold on a pre owned Absolare. Sometimes change is good... though probably spent a bob or 2 more than I planned. Probably too early for tweaks, but looking at some of the comments above, trying different tubes might be interesting. Does it make much difference?
 
Jan 23, 2018
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Hi all,
New to Absolare, and loving it. It just sounds whole and rich. Moved from Devialet expert pro; I like devialet (unlike some) and was looking to upgrade to a1000 pro, but got sold on a pre owned Absolare. Sometimes change is good... though probably spent a bob or 2 more than I planned. Probably too early for tweaks, but looking at some of the comments above, trying different tubes might be interesting. Does it make much difference?
Welcome to Absilare. After coming, echol cable and tube rolling is a course for fun.
Echol is expensive...TT
Tube rolling is easy to enjoy. Thease days absolare recommends 12bh7 for more dynamics. You may get it cheap at ebay. Or as I know, absolare supports sellected tube also even very expensive.
 
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Hi Anan and congrats on the Absolare purchase....it is a great integrated and still (likely:)) my final amp. Tubes can certainly change the flavor of things, for example, since I'm getting a bit older with some minor high frequency hearing loss, I searched for a tube with lots of sparkle and found just what I was looking for with a pair of Cifte 12AU7's from Upscale Audio here in the States. Figure out what you want to achieve and with some research there is very likely a tube that will give you more of what you want, though the tubes that come with the amp are certainly good as well. Tube rolling can be fun and expensive too, so google is your friend when the search is on. Also note that you can mix and match tube brands in this amp as well. Enjoy!!
 
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Thanks for the tips @butler @pke10000. Think I will take my time trying these things. Struggling to fault the default!
 

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