Well, maybe someone, Marty, his dealer, needs to reconcile why two such components don't seem to work together. I mean, an IPhone and the wrong charger is one thing...but amps and spkrs topping out at $240k...
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I don't think that's a reasonable expectation. In my view there is no fault of the dealer here at all. How could it be? To begin, the dealer I bought the amps from didn't sell me the Alexx V. How the heck is he supposed to know what that combo sounds like? Conversely, the dealer who sold me the speakers doesn't carry CH so unless he reads tea leaves or heard the combo anywhere, he is faultless as well. In fact, when I ordered the M10's back in February there were none in the US at all! Perhaps I should have sought the advice of a medium but all I had at my disposal was reputational input based on a few highly regarded reviews about CH amps and positive results from some owners I respect. In other words, the burden and onus was completely on me, nobody else. I thought the combo would work. It didn't. What I thank my lucky stars for is working with a dealer, Elliot G, who told me up front if I didn't love them, he would buy them back. And that's exactly what Elliot did. How rare is that? That sure doesn't happen when you buy something on Audiogon or ebay!
BTW, the amps and speakers do not top out at 240K. The amps are about 200K and the speakers are 135K. There's a term for that. It's called a very expensive mistake. (Actually, half a mistake- the speakers knock me out with the Parasound JC1+, perhaps there's more greatness to come...). Nobody else that had anything to do with this is the idiot here, except me. And, by the way, it was a risk I fully accepted before buying the amps sight unseen (or unheard). Caveat emptor.
Marty
Marty,
This demonstrates that Elliot is an exceptional dealer, but also that you are an exceptional customer for him.
Marty, that’s great that Elliot made that outstanding offer. My dealer for each item of my new system told me the same thing. I think that is rare.
It certainly helps that the M 10 amplifiers are rare, take a while to get, and seem in demand. I suspect Elliot could find another buyer pretty quickly.
It certainly helps that the M 10 amplifiers are rare, take a while to get, and seem in demand. I suspect Elliot could find another buyer pretty quickly.
Marty, wonderful post. You have my full respect, as does Elliot. It seems that synergy is, unfortunately, crucial in audio. I have been where you are before, but did not have the benefit of dealing with a dealer such as Elliot.
I want to thank you for documenting this journey. After the frustration you went through with Soulution and then the mismatch with CH I really hope you eventually find something that provides the bass control of the JC1+ and the mids/highs that your system deserves.
Elliot, you are a class act.
I want to thank you for documenting this journey. After the frustration you went through with Soulution and then the mismatch with CH I really hope you eventually find something that provides the bass control of the JC1+ and the mids/highs that your system deserves.
Elliot, you are a class act.
Excellent post and respect to both you and Eliot
Yep, that Bose system should be arriving any day now.
They certainly may. But high powered tube gear has liabilities. Been there, done that. Tubes work best for me elsewhere.
Well, the good thing is you know for sure these Parasounds work for sure w your Wilsons. The Q is, do they work for you and your tastes?
I m quit curious what that may be.Yep, that Bose system should be arriving any day now.
I hope marty will test Halcro and Pilium as well for us .
Real world testing
Another solid state candidate i d be eager to hear personally is Karan acoustics
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I have heard of a medium that was consulted by an audiophile regarding cable choice .
It turned out that even the medium said it was the most difficult thing it ever had to solve .
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Ian, Christmas only a month away. Perfect timing. LOL!
Of course, to hear an Alsyvox system the best place (in my not-so-humble opinion) is Rhapsody Out West (what I am calling my listening room) up here in the Portland neighborhood, but there is a RLR in Palm Desert that has Alsyvox you could visit on your trek to Utah.
Everyone who has listened to the Botticelli X in my room has remarked they register in the top few of speakers / systems they’ve heard. Audiophiles ought to hear them, they are very special indeed.
ok, let the record show that you started it.I m quit curious what that may be.
I hope marty will test Halcro and Pilium as well for us .
Real world testing
Another solid state candidate i d be eager to hear personally is Karan acoustics
i know of a guy who owned the Wilson Alexx (reviewed them) and now owns XVX's (reviewed those too) who likes the dart 468's plenty.......Mr. Fremer. he's sampled a few amps. some local Seattle friends were there a couple months ago doing some electrical work and were amazed at what they heard. one of them just bought a dart 108 amp to replace his tubes.
and there's this guy Jacob Heilbrunn who's got the big WAMM's who likes the 468's too. he has a big room. we are waiting for his review. but a phone call could be arranged.
seems like a trend.
Marty could drive to hear both in a day.
the 468's are also around 2 bills (the big one's) and Michael and Jacob seem to like the bass weight. i know i do not have flabby bass. it has zero global feedback but finds a way. why mess around?
just say'n.
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If i had CH M10 mono and Wilson and not happy for the sound,i will keep CH M10 and changed speaker for sure
I wouldnt change the speakers, just line up some more amps
Ps Sounds like a good idea mike
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