Anyone got any experience of the Glanz MH-124S tonearm?

[Dvuc]

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[Dvuc]

You are welcome ! Enjoy your arm!

 

[3125simon]

Finally took delivery of my Brinkmann Balance with Glanz MH-124S together with Brinkmann 12.1.

Glanz playing with my Koetsu vermillion is a revelation - tight full bass, airy open highs and the wonderful midrange....: with more resolution and lower surface noise.

still breaking in the Glanz (blue) cable - but already the combination - balance, Glanz, Koetsu so much better than my Avid/SME.

 

[Ralphio]

Fantastic looking setup .. congrats. I have been enjoying he exact same thing (except AS Aquilar arm in rear) for the last six months and can't say enough good about it. Running a Lyra Atlas Lambda SL in the 12.1 and Lyra Etna Lambda mono in the Aquilar.
Would really love to add that Glanz MH-124S for the the Koetsu stone body carts I have, maybe it will be a revelation with them too.

Enjoy

 

[3125simon]

Fantastic looking setup .. congrats. I have been enjoying he exact same thing (except AS Aquilar arm in rear) for the last six months and can't say enough good about it. Running a Lyra Atlas Lambda SL in the 12.1 and Lyra Etna Lambda mono in the Aquilar.
Would really love to add that Glanz MH-124S for the the Koetsu stone body carts I have, maybe it will be a revelation with them too.

Enjoy

I’m hoping that the Glanz will work well with the Koetsu stone body as I’ve just ordered a Coralstone diamond to use with it

 

[howiebrou]

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Finally took delivery of my Brinkmann Balance with Glanz MH-124S together with Brinkmann 12.1.

Glanz playing with my Koetsu vermillion is a revelation - tight full bass, airy open highs and the wonderful midrange....: with more resolution and lower surface noise.

still breaking in the Glanz (blue) cable - but already the combination - balance, Glanz, Koetsu so much better than my Avid/SME.

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Congrats! I hope you're not going to use that plasma arc lighter on your tt!

 

[Rdk777]

There are two different Glanz Tonearm cables existing. The black one is a Japanese standard cable, like also being shipped with Sorane Tonearms, The blue one is better, mostly sold with XLR connectors. This cable is fine and a little on the warm side.
A good match, if RCA is needed, is the Ikeda Tonearmcable, which has a similar sound, than the blue Glanz cable.

Regarding the Glanz headshell, I do miss the Azimuth adjustment. So I am using the Yamamoto HS 6s Titanium headshell or the Acoustical Systems Arche headshell on the Glanz.
Both headshells will move the Koetsu signature a little into the dynamic and open direction.
If you like to underline the rich blend of the Koetsu, the Koetsu headshell is a nice pairing.
(which is an OEM version of the Jelco HS-30 headshell)

Enjoy the Glanz with Koetsu, very nice together!

Hi Juergen

Is the azimuth adjustable with the Yamamoto HS 6S - couldn't find any documentation on it.

RK

 

[shakti]

Hi Juergen

Is the azimuth adjustable with the Yamamoto HS 6S - couldn't find any documentation on it.

RK

it is.

 

[3125simon]

it is.

Enjoying my new turntable, and excitingly waiting the arrival of my Coralstone Diamond in a few weeks.
In anticipation of the above, and as it rained all day here yesterday, I checked the set-up of my two arms/cartridges with the Acoustical Systems Smart Tractor.
Brinkmann/Esturo in the 12.1 arm perfect, but when I came to the Glanz/Urushi, with a STP distance of 290 mm I have an overhang vs the null point of 3 - 4 mm with the Urushi set as far as it will go in the Arche head shell.
I tried all 5 geometries and had the same problem.....
So other than lengthening the STP distance, am I missing something???

 

[3125simon]

Enjoying my new turntable, and excitingly waiting the arrival of my Coralstone Diamond in a few weeks.
In anticipation of the above, and as it rained all day here yesterday, I checked the set-up of my two arms/cartridges with the Acoustical Systems Smart Tractor.
Brinkmann/Esturo in the 12.1 arm perfect, but when I came to the Glanz/Urushi, with a STP distance of 290 mm I have an overhang vs the null point of 3 - 4 mm with the Urushi set as far as it will go in the Arche head shell.
I tried all 5 geometries and had the same problem.....
So other than lengthening the STP distance, am I missing something???

Managed to fix my overhang issue:

now I have a new toy to play with

set up is not as easy as I’d hope - a Koetsu Diamond cantilever should come with a new pair of eyes

 

[advanced101]

Managed to fix my overhang issue:

now I have a new toy to play with

set up is not as easy as I’d hope - a Koetsu Diamond cantilever should come with a new pair of eyes

Congrats! When my Blue Lace is due for a rebuild, I will be going Diamond.

 

[iaxel]

Managed to fix my overhang issue:

May I ask how?

 

[Rdk777]

May I ask how?

@3125simon - having similar issues with setting up a cartridge using the SmarTractor, where I run out of space when trying to align with any geometry. The Glanz manual shows a distance of 50mm from the edge of the headshell to the stylus +/- 3mm, but I'm still short a few mm's. However, it does sound good so I'm scratching my head on how to use with the SmarTractor and what is the optimal position. Wondering if its the S-shaped arm that voids the SmarTractor geometries - will inquire with Acoustical Systems. When you stated above that you fixed the overhand issue - what did you end up doing?

Thanks.

RK

 

[Shuggie]

@3125simon - having similar issues with setting up a cartridge using the SmarTractor, where I run out of space when trying to align with any geometry. The Glanz manual shows a distance of 50mm from the edge of the headshell to the stylus +/- 3mm, but I'm still short a few mm's. However, it does sound good so I'm scratching my head on how to use with the SmarTractor and what is the optimal position. Wondering if its the S-shaped arm that voids the SmarTractor geometries - will inquire with Acoustical Systems. When you stated above that you fixed the overhand issue - what did you end up doing?

Thanks.

RK

I've never had a moment's difficulty setting up 9", 10" and 12" Glanz tonearms using the SMARTractor. It sounds like the spindle-pivot distance is incorrect. S-shaped arms are just like any other for a given geometric alignment, and are fine with the SMARTractor; at least I've yet to find one that isn't.

 

[Direct Drive]

@3125simon - having similar issues with setting up a cartridge using the SmarTractor, where I run out of space when trying to align with any geometry. The Glanz manual shows a distance of 50mm from the edge of the headshell to the stylus +/- 3mm, but I'm still short a few mm's. However, it does sound good so I'm scratching my head on how to use with the SmarTractor and what is the optimal position. Wondering if its the S-shaped arm that voids the SmarTractor geometries - will inquire with Acoustical Systems. When you stated above that you fixed the overhand issue - what did you end up doing?

Thanks.

RK

Is the spindle to pivot distance set up for 15mm overhang, which was the Japanese preferred mounting. If so the stylus will be about 1.6mm short on Baerwald alignment.

 

[Rdk777]

@Shuggie, @Direct Drive - Maybe I'm doing this wrong. The P2S is set at 290 mm. Do I have to add 15 mm to correct for overhang and create a new point inline with the existing point on the SmartTractor? I'm using the Uni-Din alignment and the line on the SmarTractor is a few mm's short when extending by 15 mm.

 

[Direct Drive]

@Shuggie, @Direct Drive - Maybe I'm doing this wrong. The P2S is set at 290 mm. Do I have to add 15 mm to correct for overhang and create a new point inline with the existing point on the SmartTractor? I'm using the Uni-Din alignment and the line on the SmarTractor is a few mm's short when extending by 15 mm.

I would try it at a mounting distance of 291.5mm. That should get you Baerwald at least and hopefully without needing to twist the cartridge in the headshell for alignment.
I think if you read the SmarTractor instructions Dieter suggests mounting a FR64vat 231.5mm rather than the Fidelity Research recommended 230mm.

 

[Shuggie]

@Shuggie, @Direct Drive - Maybe I'm doing this wrong. The P2S is set at 290 mm. Do I have to add 15 mm to correct for overhang and create a new point inline with the existing point on the SmartTractor? I'm using the Uni-Din alignment and the line on the SmarTractor is a few mm's short when extending by 15 mm.

No, just mount the arm at 290mm from the platter spindle and you should be able to set the cartridge tip on the SMARTractor for UNI-Din, which is the alignment that I always use.

Set the SMARTractor to UNI-P2S to check that spindle-pivot distance accurately - if you've set the spindle-pivot mounting distance with the SMARTractor set to any other position, that would account for your difficulty. That aside, the Glanz headshell allows a pretty large amount of fore/aft cartridge movement, so you really shouldn't be having any difficulty.

You do of course have to make sure the 'pivot point' of the SMARTractor's arm is bang on center of the top bearing disc, and the platter is preferably immobilised too when working. The SMARTractor could be better designed in terms of the silly and fiddly little screw holding the the main acrylic parts in place, so do make sure that there is no movement of those acrylic parts when the screw is tightened.

 

[cuntigh]

Just a question as I am also interested in this arm. If the Glanz headshell seems to be one of the best, if not « the » best with this arm, did anyone of you tried the Wally fulcrum and so having a way to adjust azimuth ?
Probably it’s a silly question as the contact of the cart would be done against the Wally and not the headshell itself.
It seems Glanz is launching 124 S upgrade with different mods in it. Did any knows about it ?

 

[Rdk777]

Unfortunately, you cannot adjust azimuth with the Glanz headshell, if that's what you intend to do w the Wally Fulcrum. That's why I got the Arche UL headshell which is similar in weight (and can adjust azimuth). Works fine for me.

Not sure about the mods on the new Glanz.