What do they do to the sound?DC blockers are another can of worms, never liked what they do to the sound.
What do they do to the sound?DC blockers are another can of worms, never liked what they do to the sound.
Why do you have to flip switches?The Nagra HD is an excellent choice. I have the Nagra HD pre and consider it my finest piece of equipment.
I have auditioned the Nagra phono. It’s amazing kit. You can also use the gauge to help align your cartridge precisely. Very useful.
I was torn between the Boulder, the Nagra, and one I don’t hear a lot about the Van den Hul Grail SE+. The Boulder was too dear and, oddly enough, I liked the Grail more than the Nagra, probably because I tend to use VdH cartridges. Literally my only quibble with the Grail is it truly Radio Shack in how you have to adjust it. Pop the top off and flip switches. It’s an absurd lack of user friendly features for a $28k preamp. Mind you, I only did this once, but shouldn’t ever happen.
Usually it’s to set the loading and/or gain. Several companies use that approach. I prefer units with adjustments that don’t require access to the interior.Why do you have to flip switches?
What do they do to the sound?
You should not have to set the loading if the cartridge is LOMC. If you do it indicates the designer was not taking into account the significance of an inductor in parallel with a capacitance- in this case the inductance of the cartridge in parallel with the capacitance of the tonearm cable. If the designer took this issue into account its literally plug and play- no need to fiddle with loading.Usually it’s to set the loading and/or gain. Several companies use that approach. I prefer units with adjustments that don’t require access to the interior.
An over-spec'ced toroid will still rattle if there is DC on the line! Toroids simply don't like DC in their core plain and simple. EI core transformers (as I mentioned before) are more resistant but it affects them too- they run cooler if the offset is removed.Nothing i enjoy. Equally true of the versions with caps or just diodes. The ones with caps are also super sensitive to the cap audio quality.
The issue of humming toroids is also unpleasant, so i guess one has to choose their own poison. My choice is a toroid designed for low flux density which most of the times helps, alternatively an EI transformer, or a giant multi kilowatt isolation transformer.
Obviously an overspecced toroid is a little more expensive than the few cents worth of a bridge rectifier and capacitor most manufacturers use.
Being able to add capacitance to tame a nominally 47k Ohm MM is a time honored tradition.You should not have to set the loading if the cartridge is LOMC. If you do it indicates the designer was not taking into account the significance of an inductor in parallel with a capacitance- in this case the inductance of the cartridge in parallel with the capacitance of the tonearm cable. If the designer took this issue into account its literally plug and play- no need to fiddle with loading.
Loading of MM cartridges is an entirely different matter though. They need to be loaded to prevent the peak caused by the issue I outlined above from causing brightness in the extreme upper end of the audio band.
Jonathan and I are on the same page with this.Being able to add capacitance to tame a nominally 47k Ohm MM is a time honored tradition.
Being able to subtly change the sound of an LOMC by matching resistors is also a common, and audible practice.
It is harder to justify changing the reactive part of the load for a LOMC, but many offer that option as well.
Jonathan Carr observed that you’re really loading the preamp, and not the cartridge. In my experience, the more robust preamp designs do not require much fiddling.
Honestly, I couldn’t care less about the issues being kicked around in this thread … but you asked about the switches, and so I gave you the answer. I understand that your response was just the knee jerk “that’s not necessary”, but there are a lot of units in service across the globe that have interior switches to flip whether you think it’s necessary or not.
Level matching. To compensate the various level differences between all your audio sources, the Grail gives you the possibility to change the amplification factor. This amplification factor variation is also meaningful, if you use a quite “super-low”output voltage MC cartridge, or your high output voltage MC system is just at the “low side” of it's kind and you would like to use it at the MM input of “The Grail”.Why do you have to flip switches?
DC blockers are only made using diodes and capacitors. There aren't any that are just diodes. I'm wondering if we're talking about the same thing.
If you mean 'uninterested' in that I don't seek them out for study, that's correct. I do look online to see what others are up to. Doing a DC blocker without caps seems odd to me and ultimately not worth it since you spend as much for the film caps as you would for the electrolytics needed.Oh, cmon, you cannot possibly be so uninterested in other manufacturers products. Prima Luna examples. The film caps are there only to reduce the switching spikes.
The diodes only blockers are only good for offsets exceeding 0.7v, still sufficient for reasonably well designed toroids.
If you mean 'uninterested' in that I don't seek them out for study, that's correct. I do look online to see what others are up to. Doing a DC blocker without caps seems odd to me and ultimately not worth it since you spend as much for the film caps as you would for the electrolytics needed.
You've not described what you hear yet. We've heard the difference many times in our shop (smoother sound, blacker background); if you hear something negative about a DC blocker, it will be the first time I've heard of. Considering how well they work, I regard this as something unique.
Any should do- unless its of the 'diode' variety of which I was previously unaware. If DC offset isn't a problem in your system, you won't notice anything.Sorry for interupting your discution gents, but the “smoother sound” intrigues me. Is there any particular dc-blocker you would recommend Atmasphere, or would any one do?
Hi,I have the conductor in my store which I have heard with a battery PSU and a standard PSU.
As someone who runs two Jeff Rowland Design Group Cadence phono preamps (both with Jensen SUTs coupled to Acoustical Systems Archon and Lyra Dorian Mono MC cartridges) drinking from a single BPS battery power supply, I am very interested to know how the current generation Conductor with and without the optional PSU compares. I generally prefer SUT-based phono preamps with MC cartridges, so it may come down to the sonic contribution of Jensen vs Lundahl transformers in the battle of old vs new JRDG phono preamps. No question that the latter is more flexible.I hoped you would report here. Maybe this is interesting for many other readers.