Capitol Audio Fest
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Looking at this system, does anybody actually own a system that replicates this? What looks like four VAC amps, Esoteric pieces, those exact speakers, etc. If so, they must have a GIANT room to display it all in. Here's hoping that if someone does, they aren't shoehorning it into a 12x 15 space, LOL.
Visiting this room was quite an experience, and yes, the room was huge. The music was exceptional. I returned 2 or 3 times. Thanks to you, VAC and The Audio Company for bringing your best!
Looking at this system, does anybody actually own a system that replicates this? What looks like four VAC amps, Esoteric pieces, those exact speakers, etc. If so, they must have a GIANT room to display it all in. Here's hoping that if someone does, they aren't shoehorning it into a 12x 15 space, LOL.
The "Ultra" 111s are in a 108sqm room (1,162sq/ft) room with 14ft ceilings. They are driven bi-amped with custom 450 IQs and Siegfried IIs
My Ultra 11s which should be here in less than 2 months will be in a 90 sq/m room and the twin they are coming with in ranch with an 85 sqn room both with 10.5m ceilings. I will be running mine with CH M1 monos, maybe 2 sets with the slave board in the future, the twin is on the waitlist for 450 IQs.
Yes they have room to breathe
Given midfield listening distances, Leif and I are pencil pushing on a baby Ultra for the asian/condo/flat market. I'm committed to picking up two pairs from the first batch built. These will be optimized for spaces between 20 and 30 square meters. The 55s can push out (mid to far field) to 50, the Ultra 9 to 75 without any strain. Less than 20 square, requiring near field listening, that would be stand mounts and subs. No plans for that under the Ultra line. The Unifield 1s and 2s are already very good and are actually the top sellers by volume. If there is demand from myself and my other fellow distributors we could demand an Ultra monitor. So far the demand has been for the baby/compact floorstanding Ultra so that is what we are pushing VSA to make. The no-holds barred monitor market is a very tight one with probably the widest competition vying for a very tough market to please with the smallest ROI comparatively.
The "Ultra" 111s are in a 108sqm room (1,162sq/ft) room with 14ft ceilings. They are driven bi-amped with custom 450 IQs and Siegfried IIs
My Ultra 11s which should be here in less than 2 months will be in a 90 sq/m room and the twin they are coming with in ranch with an 85 sqn room both with 10.5m ceilings. I will be running mine with CH M1 monos, maybe 2 sets with the slave board in the future, the twin is on the waitlist for 450 IQs.
Yes they have room to breathe
Given midfield listening distances, Leif and I are pencil pushing on a baby Ultra for the asian/condo/flat market. I'm committed to picking up two pairs from the first batch built. These will be optimized for spaces between 20 and 30 square meters. The 55s can push out (mid to far field) to 50, the Ultra 9 to 75 without any strain. Less than 20 square, requiring near field listening, that would be stand mounts and subs. No plans for that under the Ultra line. The Unifield 1s and 2s are already very good and are actually the top sellers by volume. If there is demand from myself and my other fellow distributors we could demand an Ultra monitor. So far the demand has been for the baby/compact floorstanding Ultra so that is what we are pushing VSA to make. The no-holds barred monitor market is a very tight one with probably the widest competition vying for a very tough market to please with the smallest ROI comparatively.
The room sizes you quote would actually seem to me to be almost too small for speakers of that size! I would have thought a room of at least 2000 sq ft would be more appropriate. Sitting in the near field, which is basically what I did at the LA show when I heard these ( given the speaker size) certainly seems to work with these speakers...but I think a smaller speaker in that particular room would have been just as acceptable...ymmv.
Oh no, no, no. 1,000 sq ft is the size of a chapel already. We have to remember that speakers like these are a) not line sources and b) not horn loaded. Listening distances are meant to be in the 10 to 14 ft range which would also be the distance between speakers. If you work out the triangulation between the listener and speakers then extrapolate something akin to the rule of thirds for length and side paths, you will get the sizes I mentioned. It's no coincidence that people like Jim, ddk, audiocrack, Phil O'Hanlon, MikeL, Danon, Audioblazer and others here with big speakers have rooms in this size range. Length is sufficient for > half wave at 20Hz. If you do something akin to the show pics above, you will require boundary support and I posit that is part of the reason why the Ultra 11s are positioned closer to the front wall than say my VR-11s were in my own room or the Ultras were in LA.
The goal is not to be able to play louder but to play at high peaks with ease. At 2,000 sq ft you would be defeating the purpose as these were not designed for these sizes really. Only David's Bionors were built for that size and only line sources like the big Genesis' would fare as well as in a that large at least above cut off.
The goal is not to be able to play louder but to play at high peaks with ease. At 2,000 sq ft you would be defeating the purpose as these were not designed for these sizes really. Only David's Bionors were built for that size and only line sources like the big Genesis' would fare as well as in a that large at least above cut off.
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