Confession Time: I'm selling my gear and moving on...

Diapason

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...well, kinda.

I've been mulling over this for a while, and the simple truth is that I never enter the mancave to sit down and listen to music any more. I still listen to music elsewhere, generally while other things are happening too, but it's been literally months since I fired up even a single track on the "good" system and I can no longer justify the waste of space. The room will shortly be repurposed as a play room for my 2 little girls, and the mancave will be no more.

The funny thing is that having made this decision I feel more relief than sadness. As I remarked to an audiophile friend, I think I've let myself fall too far behind, and the main system as it stands is a relic of what I wanted in the 90s and early 00s rather than a true reflection of what I want now. The room itself was never great acoustically and that's a huge factor, it was a constant disappointing struggle, but having an area where I lock myself away no longer makes sense to me either. Most of my listening is now done via Spotify on the system in a small area beside the kitchen, it's where we do most of our day-to-day living, and while the sonics aren't high end they're good enough to surprise me regularly and to play almost everything in an enjoyable way. On the rare occasions I've walked into the mancave and shut the door, it feels like a massive step backwards in time. OK, part of it is the fact that my only real source in there is CDs, but even the act of sitting alone in front of big speakers doesn't excite me these days. It's time for something else.

Even though I'm leaving the room behind I'm actually confident I'll listen to more music overall, but my major concern is large-scale classical works. They work ok in the current system (B&W 685S2, Wadia 151 Powerdac), but not well enough for thorough exploration of new music. The challenge now is to find a musically satisfying system that's family friendly, with speakers that can work well close to walls but fill quite a large space beyond, but it's unlikely to be anything approaching high-end (not that I've ever had a really high-end system anyway). I'm starting to think that I'll enjoy the hobby just as much at more affordable levels, rather than constantly trying to reach beyond my means to the next step. I'll be moving from "what's best" to "what's good enough", but maybe that's ok.

Despite my general positivity, this marks a pretty serious deviation from a journey that started while I was still at secondary school, and a part of me will struggle to let go. But like Arnie, I'll be back.
 
Hi that’s a sound decision. If you want a small system, especially given that you have a small (9 ft wide?) room, buy the Heco Direkt, retail of 2700 quid, a 1800 Ming Da integrated amp with EL 34 valves, and a one box used Lumin for streaming, storing, and dac. That will be small, low budget, and easy. Upto you if you want to add a low priced TT

The Heco Direkt room was the most satisfying room in Windsor. I heard Scheherazade and Argent Espana on it. Extremely enjoyable. You can also do Maggie 1.7 which has attractive used prices, but Heco smaller and easier to manage.
 
D, quite the decision
You sound pretty chilled and philisophical, so your pragmatism is to be applauded
As long as you find a way, maybe more enjoyably, to listen
For me, I've spent stupid money on new room and pwr grid, and it's paying off big time
But I probably won't listen in quite the same way as I did in my prev apartment
First, the chapel here is a hobby in itself, and is taking up more of my spare time
Then, I just spend more time w Ra, and she's more a movies person than music, although we're getting into at least one live classical concert a week out here in The Sticks
Lastly, I'm making an active decision to put my remaining major upgrade budget into going streaming, rather than my traditional interests in Lp listening
I'm kinda hoping that streaming gets me so interested in classical and new music via Tidal that the time I spend, and passion generated listening in a wider context, leads to me upping the time I insist on locking myself away in the Mancave
 
What about getting a top notch headphone system?
 
What about getting a top notch headphone system?

Actually, very good idea. Get the Smyth Realyser, at 3k USD – it stores the room settings of upto 16 rooms. You can also play Auro/Atmos kind of settings through it. Read the Smyth Realyser headphone review by Kal Rubinson in Stereophile, does exactly what he says
 
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I think D still wants to listen on the go, thru the house, w the family, esp young kids enjoying things too, then phones are out
 
You're a supportive bunch I have to say. Shouldn't you be telling me not to sell anything!?! LOL.

Given that there's already a perfectly good system there (well, perfectly good might be an overstatement, but you know what I mean), maybe the headphones idea is worth considering further. Hmmm.
 
Hmm D, I was about to post to recommend you scrap this thread, buy a pr of Magico Ultimates, ten tubed monoblocks, 10 dacs, 10 masterclocks, a tt w 4 arms, series of carts and phonos, and start a new thread
But then I decided to post the message I did instead...
 
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An active system might be what you need at this point. Either a Kii Three or an Avantgarde Zero 1 XD will do the trick nicely. Both can be "fitted" to your room, and will play BIG!
Add a nice streamer, either an Aurender or something with Roon like the Innuos, and you're all set!


cheers,
alex
 
I am in full understanding of this decision. I have taken up cooking and have been really getting into to it for the last 6-8 months making chef inspired cuisine at home. Since incorporating this into my life I listen a substantially lower amount in the usual audiophile fashion.

Life has ways of keeping you busy to where you have to make time to do the isolated listening session. But if it were me I would just find a way to keep everything rather than sell of the equipment and give up the room to go with it.

Kids don't deserve to have my listening space even if I dont use it as much :)
 
An active system might be what you need at this point. Either a Kii Three or an Avantgarde Zero 1 XD will do the trick nicely. Both can be "fitted" to your room, and will play BIG!
Add a nice streamer, either an Aurender or something with Roon like the Innuos, and you're all set!


cheers,
alex

A good recommendation
 
Well done! Any passion/hobby is about pursuit of happiness...you've got something far, far better in enjoying family life. As for music clearly remaining in your everyday, perhaps you might find a smaller system that allows you some of the audiophile enjoyment while fitting into the living/family room.

Our system is in the living room, and we've got a partners desk here at one end as well so we can work, entertain and enjoy music all the time. Good luck and enjoy!
 
You're a supportive bunch I have to say. Shouldn't you be telling me not to sell anything!?! LOL.

Given that there's already a perfectly good system there (well, perfectly good might be an overstatement, but you know what I mean), maybe the headphones idea is worth considering further. Hmmm.

Don't sell anything! :b

* Improve your soul first. ;-)
 
I entirely understand.

Luckily for me my listening room is close enough that I can easily hear music when I'm doing just about anything else around the home; and it still sounds damn good, better in some ways. This is important because I like music. If my room was simply cut off I'd want it to be substantial enough that I could move other functions of the home in; like how MikeL is able to work from his listening room.

You're making the right choice if it makes you feel better. Here's where I differ, however, is that there's no need to "downgrade" so much as change. Let the kids have it, use the resources to make the new room the best it can be. Yes you may be restricted somewhat on speaker choice, but so be it. There's no reason why you can't use your superior source and amps for speakers that fit in the room, closer to the wall. Hell you could probably get some new furniture after selling your current speakers, if you need to arrange a bit. Imagine Madfloyd's space but if the speakers were in the corners, a couch between them. You get the idea. There's no reason why you can't enjoy extremely good audio playback of music you like, in any room. It may not be the same, but let's get real, any variation of your stereo with different speakers is a huge step up from an iPod dock.
 
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Confession Time: I'm selling my gear and moving on...
DON'T DO IT!

A good friend of mine sold his Krell pres and power amps, Thiel speakers, Sequerra tuner (how anybody could get rid of that is beyond me!) Avid turntable and a bunch of sundries when his twin boys were a little less than a year old just before they learned to walk. He too, repurposed the room and now, a couple of years later is heartbroken.
 
Haha...

#1 thing I expect to see if you don't greatly improve the room you're going to be in, is to come back to the hobby. You wouldn't be the first member to sell off and come back. One guy on here has done it several times within 2 years, even switching rooms several times.
 
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DON'T DO IT!

A good friend of mine sold his Krell pres and power amps, Thiel speakers, Sequerra tuner (how anybody could get rid of that is beyond me!) Avid turntable and a bunch of sundries when his twin boys were a little less than a year old just before they learned to walk. He too, repurposed the room and now, a couple of years later is heartbroken.

While we've all heard stories like this, I've also heard several cases of people whose priorities have changed, but still enjoy good music on a good stereo. They have "downsized", and don't regret one bit, some even enjoying their systems more now, with a simpler setup, than the old mess of boxes and cables.


cheers,
alex
 
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DON'T DO IT!

A good friend of mine sold his Krell pres and power amps, Thiel speakers, Sequerra tuner (how anybody could get rid of that is beyond me!) Avid turntable and a bunch of sundries when his twin boys were a little less than a year old just before they learned to walk. He too, repurposed the room and now, a couple of years later is heartbroken.

Well, I guess he could probably buy back his old equipment at less than what we sold them for! ;)
 
You all need to know that D is coming from a room that has never served him well, and he's made strenuous efforts to get even a half decent sound
Maybe w his switched priorities he's lost the will to keep running up this particular down escalator
My suggestion?
A basic good but inexpensive Hifi for the whole family
SGM server/Dac8 and HiFiMan HE200 'phones for personal listening
 

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