Do Mobile Fidelity Vinyl Re-issues Have a Digital Step in the Process?

[mtemur]

Thank you for your honest response.

Right now it is not clear if one-steps or UHQRs which have the “Original Master Recording” are or are not AAA. We know (from the video) only that LPs with the “Original Master Recording” stripe and which are not one-steps or UHQRs are AAA.

Unfortunately that's not limited with one-steps. Regardless of it's being one-step or regular release they have a tendency to use dsd transfer for cutting the lacquer. Sometimes they cut from dsd even if they have the original master tape at hand. After watching the video I clearly understood that "original master recording" stripe only means that they reached the original master tape of the album but that doesn't say whether they use that tape or the dsd transfer of that tape to cut the lacquer.

 

[Ron Resnick]

I am canceling my order for the Michael Jackson LP, as well as any other open orders I have pending at Mobile Fidelity.

 

[Jeffy]

This could easily be done using an high quality analog dub.

I’ve already contacted Warner Bros. Music about this matter, asking them to work with reputable reissue labels in the future.

Again going out of your way to ruin a company

 

[microstrip]

On the video mofi guys are advocating the dsd. They're explaining how perfect cutting from the dsd transfer sounds and how cutting from the master tape can not compete with it. I would like to ask those gentlemen why are you pressing vinyl with a ridiculously high price tag than? Why don't you press sacds instead?

IMHO another question is that these expensive LPs are being promoted as a limited series - if DSD digital copies are kept something more "perfect" in virtual form is still flying around. I think the collector value of the these LPs will suffer.

 

[Audiophile Bill]

The question is answered: For Mobile Fidelity a digital transfer satisfies the representation of “mastered from the original master tapes.”

Indeed this is true: The resulting vinyl record which was made from a digital transfer was, indeed, “mastered from the original master tapes.” But this is not, I believe, what most audiophiles would expect, especially given the ubiquitousness of the AAA to DDD (recording/mixing/mastering) disclosure convention.

In my opinion it was a material misrepresentation for Mobile Fidelity not to disclose a digital conversion in the process between the analog master tape and the resulting vinyl.

Yes agreed Ron. Exactly what I was saying above in the comment on “spirit” not the letter.

 

[Jeffy]

Ok they were caught, but how do you know that some of these pressings may be the best we can get on vinyl. To write them off completely because of the digital thing is stupid. Shame on you for buying records so you can make future money. I buy records because they sound good.

 

[Audiophile Bill]

Ok they were caught, but how do you know that some of these pressings may be the best we can get on vinyl. To write them off completely because of the digital thing is stupid. Shame on you for buying records so you can make future money. I buy records because they sound good.

Hi Jeffy,

Folks buy records for different reasons and that is fine. I don’t think most buy here for investment purposes more to listen. I think Ron is pissed by the flat out lies being conveyed by this company whether they sound good or not. Nobody wants to be lied to about something they spend their cash on.

Best wishes.

 

[microstrip]

Just for curiosity, for how long have MoFi have been cutting form DSD?

 

[Jeffy]

I do agree here with everyone for really being pissed off I am too.

 

[Audiophile Bill]

I do agree here with everyone for really being pissed off I am too.

Yep here here

 

[Jeffy]

Fremer is now talking with Michael from 45 rpm audiophile

 

[Jeffy]

It’s on now go watch

 

[Ron Resnick]

Shame on you for buying records so you can make future money.

Is this addressed to me?

 

[Jeffy]

I feel this way for anyone buying these records not only mofi maybe even three of the same copies to make lots of money in the future

 

[Ron Resnick]

Fremer is now talking with Michael from 45 rpm audiophile

Of course I’m interested in Michael Freme’s opinion on the matter. But as he is neither a principal at Mobile Fidelity nor involved in the mastering process there, he is not in a position to answer authoritatively and definitively the open questions which are the subject of this thread. We have to await additional information directly from Mobile Fidelity to answer the open questions.

 

[Ron Resnick]

I feel this way for anyone buying these records not only mofi maybe even three of the same copies to make lots of money in the future

I have never bought a record for investment purposes. I have never bought a record with the intention of selling it in the future.

As far as I can recall I have never sold an LP in my entire life.

 

[microstrip]

There is a thread on this subject growing faster than a mushroom in the Steve Horman forum.

 

[bazelio]

Shame on you for buying records so you can make future money. I buy records because they sound good.

Good for you. Nothing wrong with buying to resell. That's called investing.

 

[Jeffy]

Ron great I’m the same way never ever sold a record

 

[Kingrex]

I watched the Michael/Michael video. Bummer.