Next time I am at a live classical concert I will be sure to tell them when their sound is too lean and lacks texture...oh wait I don’t hear that live...
Haha. I'm talking about playback systems.
Next time I am at a live classical concert I will be sure to tell them when their sound is too lean and lacks texture...oh wait I don’t hear that live...
There either is or there is not an “absolute sound”, which one is it? Just curious to see if the idiology aligns with the response.Haha. I'm talking about playback systems.
There either is or is not an “absolute sound”, which one is it?
I feel all comments critisizing Magico speakers would be considered by you as poisoning the thread. I don’t agree that using « great on hifi criterias « is pejorative.Ron,
IMHO we all know that the high-end is a matter of preference and he share a subjective hobby. But is nice to learn that if we write it we can than refer to high-end components using extremely pejorative words such as "Great on Hifi criterias" and be considered as an introspective audiophile ...
Sorry, I am ready to accept all other clear subjective attributes, but I think that this is the type of comment that poisons a thread ...
Ron,
IMHO we all know that the high-end is a matter of preference and he share a subjective hobby. But is nice to learn that if we write it we can than refer to high-end components using extremely pejorative words such as "Great on Hifi criterias" and be considered as an introspective audiophile ...
Sorry, I am ready to accept all other clear subjective attributes, but I think that this is the type of comment that poisons a thread ...
Exactly. Magico, Wilson and Sonus Faber for example are all great speakers , but very different in their type of presentation. Who can say that one of them is nearer the reality of a concert ?I think Frenchrooster and Ron just nailed it .
Magico and wilson or Avalon and Kharma to name a few well known brands , all deliver a version of the truth that they see fit as the norm .
Its just the consumers task to pick the flavour they like.
Some consumers are good at it , some keep on swapping untill the wallet is empty and they still haven t found what they re looking for .
The choice is enormous regarding loudspeakers which is only better for consumers .
lolI like the equipment just as much as everyone else, God knows that I have a ton of it
The buyer hopefully after a couple of month at homeWho can say that one of them is nearer the reality of a concert ?
So am IHaha. I'm talking about playback systems.
i'm the odd one out here: i don't care about replicating a concert. i've enjoyed listening to my system over pretty much any concert i've been to. concerts are fun for other reasons though even pre corona i wasn't going often - i'm a home body.Exactly. Magico, Wilson and Sonus Faber for example are all great speakers , but very different in their type of presentation. Who can say that one of them is nearer the reality of a concert ?
I would take the YG Sonja 2.2i over the Magico M3 but I would take the Magico M6 over the Sonja XVi Jr. This is straight up with equal discounting.genuine question as i was looking at some yg's: if you could have a yg sonja or magico m series (lets say m3) with one at a substantial discount to the other would you just buy the cheaper one?
would anyone say magicos are better (just compared to themselves and not other speakers) at unamplified bass vs amplified/synthesized bass? i listen to alot of synthesized/amplified bass and less so unamplified and am wondering if the magico sound is just tuned to prefer one to the other. don't get me wrong, i love whatever this house sound is.
most magicos i've heard are good all rounders but my recent experience with alexx v's and xvx have me wondering if wilson or some other brand have an edge for the type of music i like or if i was just taken by a new sound that i'm not used to
Don't worry, your, or anyone else's, opinion will not 'burst bubbles' on this forumthis game is like Scientology and once you make it to the top of the hill and look back you realize just how silly most of it is. Sorry to burst some bubbles, but hey pride-in-ownership still means a lot to most of us.
yeaaaah i am neither buying equipment for or on anyone else's opinion. to the extent that impacts my buying decisions is the loose concept of resale value where i prefer to avoid esoteric brands where possibleDon't worry, your, or anyone else's, opinion will not 'burst bubbles' on this forum
Audio Drom gave the Magico M3’s their highest rating at 95%genuine question as i was looking at some yg's: if you could have a yg sonja or magico m series (lets say m3) with one at a substantial discount to the other would you just buy the cheaper one?
would anyone say magicos are better (just compared to themselves and not other speakers) at unamplified bass vs amplified/synthesized bass? i listen to alot of synthesized/amplified bass and less so unamplified and am wondering if the magico sound is just tuned to prefer one to the other. don't get me wrong, i love whatever this house sound is.
most magicos i've heard are good all rounders but my recent experience with alexx v's and xvx have me wondering if wilson or some other brand have an edge for the type of music i like or if i was just taken by a new sound that i'm not used to
IMHO we all know that the high-end is a matter of preference and he share a subjective hobby. But is nice to learn that if we write it we can than refer to high-end components using extremely pejorative words such as "Great on Hifi criterias" and be considered as an introspective audiophile ...
Sorry, I am ready to accept all other clear subjective attributes, but I think that this is the type of comment that poisons a thread ...
Thanks for clarifying. I want to point also that english is not my first language, so I may easily be misunderstood.Francisco, I don't take "great on HiFi criterias" as inherently pejorative. Imo there is a fairly clear distinction between the qualities of live acoustic music (tonality, dynamics, timing, venue context) and HiFi qualities that some stereo systems offer or add in reproduction (focused imaging, frequency emphasis, image size, black-backgrounds, etc.). Many of the latter are part of an audiophile lexicon that concert goers simply don't use. Some audiophiles value them, some do not. But the pointing out or attributing these to components - as one person's opinion (le coq français) - strikes me not as pejorative but descriptive and evidence of introspection sufficient to know the difference.
I ve heard Soulless on 2 occasions , based on that i wouldn't even qualify it as high end audio , more like regular audio .Soulution
Any idea how anybody is gonna determine that other then their own ears and what the manufacturer and reviewers tell them?Can we say that Magico are more neutral to Kharma ?
Tima are you really reviewing ching cheng ?Francisco, I don't take "great on HiFi criterias" as inherently pejorative. Imo there is a fairly clear distinction between the qualities of live acoustic music (tonality, dynamics, timing, venue context) and HiFi qualities that some stereo systems offer or add in reproduction (focused imaging, frequency emphasis, image size, black-backgrounds, etc.). Many of the latter are part of an audiophile lexicon that concert goers simply don't use. Some audiophiles value them, some do not. But the pointing out or attributing these to components - as one person's opinion (le coq français) - strikes me not as pejorative but descriptive and evidence of introspection sufficient to know the difference.
Tima are you really reviewing ching cheng ?
As taken from your signature : Wires: Shunyata ? PC/SC/IC, ChingCheng PC;
Tima are you really reviewing ching cheng ?
As taken from your signature : Wires: Shunyata ? PC/SC/IC, ChingCheng PC;
We can only hope.