Introducing My System

Hi guys, big news in the Thundersnow house of hi-fi. After hearing these amplifiers at a friend’s house, I made it my mission to make them a part of my hifi setup. And I did. These are the Karan Master Collection PowerA monoblocks. Roughly 2,000w into 8ohms and the power/current only increases as the speakers go down in ohms. With that said, I have been playing these amps for a couple of days now. I wanted to hold off on my initial impressions until I’ve had a chance to fine tune the current setup, as well as test the amps on a wider range of music.

Here are some initial thoughts:

1.) These amps are match made in heaven in terms of pairing with the Clarisys Studio Plus. The tone is absolutely magnificent. It’s not “thin” like solid state and it’s not full tube, but it’s definitely more on the fuller/more physical side of things than anything else. Tone-wise this amp holds its own against the NAT Symbiosis New (and its gorgeous tonality), but at the same time, the level of control, the precise and expansive imaging as well as the incredible bass, takes these speakers to the next level.
2.) With that said, whoever tells you Clarisys Studio Plus can be driven to its FULL POTENTIAL (key words here) with any tube amps — giant NATs, or otherwise, clearly hasn’t heard these speakers sing with the Karan PowerA monos. This is a whole different ballgame. Think NBA dunks vs. WNBA dunks.
3.) In comparison to the Soulution 710 (for instance as my previous solid state reference), that one had about 50% of the control that Karan’s do, but when it comes to the tone, Karans just blow it out of the water. No contest. The tone is not “dark” or “bright” or “on the warm side.” It’s just physical and just right. I played a song by Marten (their Marten recordings — Supreme Sessions 2) “Dance Drums, Dance” by the Rhythm Art Duo and the physical nature of the sound on the Karans, it literally gives you the sound pressure of large percussion instruments being hit with different degrees of intensity. So physical, it’s like a dynamic speaker but faster. I honestly couldn’t believe a planar speaker could produce this sound. It just goes to show you what the formula for success is here.
4.) The speakers now play with ease and no matter what passage you throw at them the nature of the tone remains the same. The dynamics remain unrestricted and you hear literally NO dynamic compression in the recordings. It’s especially fun to listen to live recordings. It’s like gigs at your own pad. Amazing.
5.) The ONLY compromise so far that I’ve seen is the high gain of the amps (36db), meaning you’d be better off with a low gain preamp (6-10db). I’ve resolved this one successfully by setting my Weiss Helios’ XLR output voltage to 2,6v, thus creating the best possible signal to noise ratio of the system. Besides that, you have to use 4 power cables (2 per mono block) for these beasts, and you can only switch them on by flicking the four switches in the back. A little less ergonomic than I’d like it to be. But these complaints are totally minor compared to the immense benefits.
6.) Finally, another amazing win (though I can’t explain this one fully), I had just a tad bit issues with the Clarisys Studio Plus’ off axis response/sound. The problem seems to have been drastically lessened with the introduction of the Karans. The speakers simply play better off axis?! I guess I expect this is because the Karans have so much control over the speakers.

Finally, (and I say this with not a sip of whiskey to my name) this is the best sound I’ve ever achieved with hi fi in my home setup. I’ve never heard anything sound better — and I’ve heard quite, quite, quite, quite a bit.
 

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Latest videos of a fairly finalized setup:


 
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Hi guys, big news in the Thundersnow house of hi-fi. After hearing these amplifiers at a friend’s house, I made it my mission to make them a part of my hifi setup. And I did. These are the Karan Master Collection PowerA monoblocks. Roughly 2,000w into 8ohms and the power/current only increases as the speakers go down in ohms. With that said, I have been playing these amps for a couple of days now. I wanted to hold off on my initial impressions until I’ve had a chance to fine tune the current setup, as well as test the amps on a wider range of music.

Here are some initial thoughts:

1.) These amps are match made in heaven in terms of pairing with the Clarisys Studio Plus. The tone is absolutely magnificent. It’s not “thin” like solid state and it’s not full tube, but it’s definitely more on the fuller/more physical side of things than anything else. Tone-wise this amp holds its own against the NAT Symbiosis New (and its gorgeous tonality), but at the same time, the level of control, the precise and expansive imaging as well as the incredible bass, takes these speakers to the next level.
2.) With that said, whoever tells you Clarisys Studio Plus can be driven to its FULL POTENTIAL (key words here) with any tube amps — giant NATs, or otherwise, clearly hasn’t heard these speakers sing with the Karan PowerA monos. This is a whole different ballgame. Think NBA dunks vs. WNBA dunks.
3.) In comparison to the Soulution 710 (for instance as my previous solid state reference), that one had about 50% of the control that Karan’s do, but when it comes to the tone, Karans just blow it out of the water. No contest. The tone is not “dark” or “bright” or “on the warm side.” It’s just physical and just right. I played a song by Marten (their Marten recordings — Supreme Sessions 2) “Dance Drums, Dance” by the Rhythm Art Duo and the physical nature of the sound on the Karans, it literally gives you the sound pressure of large percussion instruments being hit with different degrees of intensity. So physical, it’s like a dynamic speaker but faster. I honestly couldn’t believe a planar speaker could produce this sound. It just goes to show you what the formula for success is here.
4.) The speakers now play with ease and no matter what passage you throw at them the nature of the tone remains the same. The dynamics remain unrestricted and you hear literally NO dynamic compression in the recordings. It’s especially fun to listen to live recordings. It’s like gigs at your own pad. Amazing.
5.) The ONLY compromise so far that I’ve seen is the high gain of the amps (36db), meaning you’d be better off with a low gain preamp (6-10db). I’ve resolved this one successfully by setting my Weiss Helios’ XLR output voltage to 2,6v, thus creating the best possible signal to noise ratio of the system. Besides that, you have to use 4 power cables (2 per mono block) for these beasts, and you can only switch them on by flicking the four switches in the back. A little less ergonomic than I’d like it to be. But these complaints are totally minor compared to the immense benefits.
6.) Finally, another amazing win (though I can’t explain this one fully), I had just a tad bit issues with the Clarisys Studio Plus’ off axis response/sound. The problem seems to have been drastically lessened with the introduction of the Karans. The speakers simply play better off axis?! I guess I expect this is because the Karans have so much control over the speakers.

Finally, (and I say this with not a sip of whiskey to my name) this is the best sound I’ve ever achieved with hi fi in my home setup. I’ve never heard anything sound better — and I’ve heard quite, quite, quite, quite a bit.
The off axis comes most likely from the time coherence of the Karan amps.
 
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What a stunning SETUP, I remember KARAN fondly, had the Reference set, keep enjoying, dear friend!
 
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What a stunning SETUP, I remember KARAN fondly, had the Reference set, keep enjoying, dear friend!
Thank you very much, my friend!
 
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The off axis comes most likely from the time coherence of the Karan amps.
I want to believe it’s most likely from the amplifiers being able to drive the speaker fully across the full freq range without power clipping , with limited power you have to be within the sound field to avoid the thin off axis sound..
 
I want to believe it’s most likely from the amplifiers being able to drive the speaker fully across the full freq range without power clipping , with limited power you have to be within the sound field to avoid the thin off axis sound..
I think this is a very plausible explanation. Thanks, @Audiohertz2
 
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A very organic presentation in my opinion. Take a listen.

 
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That's nice. Just shows again that ribbons need serious solid state power.
That very much has been my conclusion as well. They need power (and plenty of it) to reach their true dynamic potential and control. It’s not simply about sensitivity — it’s about having full control over the large bass panel. The NATs simply weren’t able to swing this in the same manner.
 
That very much has been my conclusion as well. They need power (and plenty of it) to reach their true dynamic potential and control. It’s not simply about sensitivity — it’s about having full control over the large bass panel. The NATs simply weren’t able to swing this in the same manner.

I also prefer their midrange with solid state, because without control it just sounds wimpy
 
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I tried to record this video but the infernal fluffy creature next to me is doing what he usually does — sing to classical.

 
I tried to record this video but the infernal fluffy creature next to me is doing what he usually does — sing to classical.


Thank you. Clear, open, nicely extended top frequencies with detail, a bit of warmth without wetness or slush, no etch or glare, again seemingly effortless drive and control. I don't know the amps but they seem like a very fine match for the speakers.
 
My very quick review of amps on Clarisys Studio Plus::

1.) Soulution Stereo 710 — great control and bass, tone too thin, a very solid state sound signature.

2.) NAT Symbiosis New — great tone, lovely highs, gets way too cluttered, wimpy and no control on more complex music. Poor off axis performance of the speakers. Simply put at 110w, of how conservatively NAT rates these, the speakers were underpowered.

3.) Karan POWERa Mono — not quite the beauty of highs as NAT, midrange just as good, bass is no comparison in favor of the Karans. Clarisys and Karans are a perfect match — it’s not warm, it’s not analytical — it’s just correct and musical. In terms of tone/sound signature leans on the side of real life music (very weighty and physical when it needs to be — especially impressive this is done with panels). The control is out of this world with no dynamic compression happening even at really high volumes. Off axis is as best as these speakers can get although standing and listening to music you lose some detail and focus still. Way less though than with NAT, and slighly less than with Soulution.

4.) To leave no room for ambiguity, having lived with Magma Evo for quite some time (170w of pure GM100 tubes) I suspect these would work very well on the Studio Plus if you can live with the heat. This is just a hunch and an assumption. Having used NAT Symbiosis New (hybrid design) and Magma Evo with GM100s with the Marten Mingus Orchestra, Magma Evo was just superior in every regard — EXCEPT ergonomics.

To that same end, I enjoyed the videos @morricab posted here and I am open to the idea that gear like AC can work well with Clarisys. These are just my first hand impressions.
 
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I have reintroduced the Lampizator Horizon into the system. Partly because of the need for DSP with Martens before, partly because I am not a fan of how the whole switch to Horizon 360 was done and the whole XDMI hoopla, and partly because tube swapping “paradise” eventually ended up being a never ending inferno of chasing your own tube tail, I was reluctant to use the Horizon over the Weiss Helios. This was hubris more than the pursuit of excellence in sound and for that I’m sorry.

It is so painfully clear to me now how wrong I was to miss this time with the Horizon. The 3D space this DAC brings to the very same recordings, the weight in the mids and the sweet extension in the highs makes it abundantly clear that I was wrong. Dead wrong. Lukasz is very good at crafting excellent sound and Horizon is an excellently executed DAC.

Finally, there is no op amp based DAC design that can compete with the Lampi concept. Or I haven’t heard it yet. Either or.
 

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