no wonder the Neumann dst sounds so good, it is the counterpart to the neumann vst cutting head. so you hear it as it was cut.
Lumiere carts 're neumanns too
Lumiere carts 're neumanns too
Is there a "World's Best Cartridge?"
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Lumieres are jokes, they’re not even wired in phase most of the time because the guy can’t keep track of his windings. They break after a short little while and then try to get service from the guy who made them. There were a couple of nice sounding samples in the hands of journalists going around but nothing like the Neumann they were supposedly emulating and then they were hyped up. Sadly the audio media is even more clueless than some of their consumers! If you’re going to pay thousands for a cartridge make sure you know who’s standing behind it, I learnt this lesson the hard way.no wonder the Neumann dst sounds so good, it is the counterpart to the neumann vst cutting head. so you hear it as it was cut.
Lumiere carts 're neumanns too
david
Coming to what OP says, and digested with other things I have picked up in my humble years.
1. Certain carts emphasise things that you like more - hence subjective
2. My own hierarchy is: turntable- then arm - phono stage - then cartridge/arm cable
3. A change of cart may not be optimised at that level and will require a whole load of other changes for optimisation ie my FR64s sounds better (to my ears) with a Nordost Tyr cable than a Cardas Golden Reference when using a Shelter cartridge. On my Moerch DP6 the Cardas is different but strong in other ways.
I don’t want to cop out here, but at that level it’s really about subjective choice and sound emphasis.
If it were ‘best’ it ought to be based on value and diminishing returns past a point
I hasten to add I am no expert and am just joining the discussion
1. Certain carts emphasise things that you like more - hence subjective
2. My own hierarchy is: turntable- then arm - phono stage - then cartridge/arm cable
3. A change of cart may not be optimised at that level and will require a whole load of other changes for optimisation ie my FR64s sounds better (to my ears) with a Nordost Tyr cable than a Cardas Golden Reference when using a Shelter cartridge. On my Moerch DP6 the Cardas is different but strong in other ways.
I don’t want to cop out here, but at that level it’s really about subjective choice and sound emphasis.
If it were ‘best’ it ought to be based on value and diminishing returns past a point
I hasten to add I am no expert and am just joining the discussion
Many sound aspects canbe subjective and I enjoy your pleasant tease.
You know what sounds more real to you with a particular recording in particular conditions, and many times people disagree on which of them sounds more real. So, unless we have a dogmatic view of stereo, a persuasive mentor or a just a wish to stop we will always keep hunting. Some of us know and accept that considering the limitations of sound reproduction, at best we favor our preferred view of real - that for some of us equates our preference - others refer to an "absolute best". Considering analog, my "best" is a genuine copy of a master tape.
agree that a 'good' master tape dub is as close to a recording reference as there is. but....what might that mean......exactly? i have a few 'known' provenance low-gen master tape dubs where my vinyl surpasses it to one degree or another that even that is not anything you can entirely count on. could be the age/condition of the master when it sourced the pressing, verses when it sourced the dub. or just a poor dub transfer.
some master dubs are just better than others. but a 'good' master tape is the standard......assuming a tape playback chain of sufficient quality. and that is how i judge my cartridges, as my tape playback gear has been a constant for 15 years now. what i see over the years is my vinyl has crept up on my tape here and there.
Without wanting to be controversial but not all reel to reels are equal. I remember speaking to the late great Tim de Pavaracini and he explained his works improved the machines in terms of noise and bandwidth…
good - people can take things the wrong way.
My point being this search for mastertape can be fickle and drive you mad. That said I heard a really good reel to reel owned by meridian (yes the digital maestros) and it was breathtakingly good - so much better than all the digital and vinyl at the show I attended
Yes I also collect “master tape” and can vouch for this experience directly.
I am sure that’s gonna be like the dark side of the force - ie dragging me to temptation
I don’t have the space, money, time…
Haha. Is worth it. Less dark than the abyss of digital
Getting back on topic I never knew about the Neumann DST - thanks to everyone.
By that I guess the Audio Technica Art1000 is the closest to that. I know Taj Moughaddan (apologise for mis-spelling) rates it very highly and I was very impressed (although hard to isolate in a 500k system with FM electrics)
By that I guess the Audio Technica Art1000 is the closest to that. I know Taj Moughaddan (apologise for mis-spelling) rates it very highly and I was very impressed (although hard to isolate in a 500k system with FM electrics)
You can make your point by not sniping me how I come to my conclusion by persuasion of ddk and not hearing by myself Micro. Rest a little. No need to keep up your rating this way. Teasing friend is humorous and charmful. Sniping is not. I never thought your conclusion or your intuition came from your reading of Tool's but your own.
He’s been at this stupid childish crap for a while now and he thinks he’s being clever! Not sure if he even has an original thought lots of HO’s and always quoting other people.
david
david
No problem David. I got used to expected insults from you when you are unable to address different ways of living this hobby - I hope that some say you will understand that there are more guides and mentors in this hobby than just you. I respect people preferences, but always feel free to discuss to comment and discuss them. This thread was created by someone who wanted to comment the general idea of "the best" in this hobby, I posted my point of view.
Don’t make it about me Francisco it’s you and whatever your infatuation is with me. You’re not addressing anyone’s audio preference nor discussing cartridges just taking cheap shots or lecturing everyone, stop pretending and calling you out isn’t insulting you!
david
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