It's Not A Generation Gap
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Didn't Led Zeppelin steal the majority of their first album from other sources?
http://forums.tabcrawler.com/index.php?topic=4971.0
http://forums.tabcrawler.com/index.php?topic=4971.0
I think that many of the early R 'n' roll groups borrowed from blues artists. Donovan gave his perspective in his autobiography
I think that many of the early R 'n' roll groups borrowed from blues artists. Donovan gave his perspective in his autobiography
And we should be glad they did.
Nothing.
LZ just might not be the band you would want to hold up as an example.
There are some skeletons in their closet.
From the link...
Over the years Led Zeppelin has been accused of borrowing music and lyrics from other artists, especially some of the greatest blues legends of all time. Led Zeppelin has been taken to court over the matter on numerous occasions. Several of the cases are yet to be resolved.
Howard Stern show exposes the legendary Zeppelin as “…nothing more than a glorified cover band…” Listen to the attachment below.
Plagiarism occurs throughout Led Zeppelin’s impressive catalog:
10. “Black Mountain Side” – originally it was a traditional English folk song that appears on Bert Jansch’s 1966 album Jack Orion as “Blackwaterside”; yet it was credited on Led Zeppelin’s first album as a Jimmy Page composition. This is a common theme.
9. “Babe I’m Gonna Leave You” – a folk song that was written by Anne Bredon in the late ’50s and then recorded by Joan Baez in 1963. Led Zeppelin included the song on their 1969 debut Led Zeppelin credited as “trad., arr. Page” but then later changed (in the ’90s) to properly given credit to Bredon for writing the song.
8. “Since I’ve Been Lovin’ You” – released on the album Led Zeppelin III, the song features lyrics taken from the Moby Grape song “Never”). Perhaps it was coincidence that Moby Grape was one of Robert Plant’s favorite bands…
7. “Moby Dick” – a fan favorite during Led Zeppelin concerts, the guitar riff is eerily similar to (or, a nearly note-for-note ripoff of) a riff which appears on Bobby Parker’s 1961 single, “Watch Your Step” . Jimmy Page was an admitted fan of Parker’s, at one point even attempting to sign him to Led Zeppelin’s Swan Song Records label.
6. “In My Time Of Dying” – this is a traditional blues song that has been covered by a LOT of musicians since the early ’60s when Bob Dylan covered it on his debut album (LISTEN). Unlike most musicians who record the song, Led Zeppelin could not admit the song wasn’t their own: Dylan credited the song “trad. arr. Dylan”, Zeppelin’s credits read “Page, Plant, John Paul Jones, John Bonham”.
5. “The Lemon Song” – from Led Zeppelin II, this song steals heavily from the Howlin’ Wolf song “Killing Floor” , a song Led Zeppelin often played during their first tour of the United States. I say “steal” because the credits on Led Zeppelin II attribute the song solely to Page, Plant, Jones, and Bonham.
4. “Bring It On Home” – written by Willie Dixon and made famous by Sonny Boy Williamson II, Led Zeppelin’s version from Led Zeppelin II featured an intro and outro that were deliberate homages to the original. However, Willie Dixon was not given a writing credit for the track and Arc Music later filed a lawsuit against Led Zeppelin for copyright infringement. The case was settled out of court.
3. “Whole Lotta Love” – released on Led Zeppelin II, this song was the band’s first hit single. It was not, however, an original composition as the album credits originally claimed. In fact, the lyrics are heavily taken from “You Need Love” by Willie Dixon whose label would later file a lawsuit claiming copyright infringement in 1985 (see above).
2. “Stairway To Heaven” – yes, even this most classic of all Zeppelin songs is based upon another band’s music. Nooo! Not “Stairway”, say it ain’t so! Well, the main guitar riff sounds an awful lot like the song “Taurus” by the band Spirit, doesn’t it? Especially when you consider that Led Zeppelin toured with Spirit in 1969…
Here is the guitar tab intro comparison for both "Stairway To Heaven" and "Taurus":
http://www.tabcrawler.com/2731663/spirit/taurus
1. “Dazed And Confused” – released on Led Zeppelin’s first album, the song was originally credited as “written by Jimmy Page” and was one of the band’s most signature songs. However, it was NOT written by Jimmy Page. In fact, “Dazed and Confused” was originally penned by folk singer Jake Holmes who caught Page’s attention one night at the Village Theater in Greenwich Village while opening for The Yardbirds (Page’s band at the time). Jimmy arranged a version of the song for The Yardbirds but didn’t record a studio version until 1969 with Led Zeppelin. “Dazed And Confused” went on to become the highlight of Zeppelin shows for their entire career, Jake Holmes never sought any manner of legal action.
Thanks. And yes I've heard these claims about LZ and many other bands as well. I'm still not getting why you chose to impart this info in this thread?
Lip syncing is dishonest. That's where the sense of generational musical superiority stems from.
LZ's theft is another form of cheating and should not serve as a good example. There are better ones.
Oooooooh, I don't know if I can let this one go.
. I guess it depends upon criteria used for evaluation.
Oooooooh, I don't know if I can let this one go.
I really don't agree here
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/l...sts-of-all-time-19691231/ray-charles-19691231
I guess all those bards were just waiting for someone to come along and make them great. I further take it by your reasoning that Eric Clapton would have to be considered the world's greatest cover guitarist.
Those same accusations were made against Dylan too..... would you say Dylan is a third rate artist?
And I think that can be said about every musical genre be it jazz, rock, classical.... they all build on the past.
Those same accusations were made against Dylan too..... would you say Dylan is a third rate artist?
You know all those artists borrowed from one another, that's what made the genre work. If I can't get this piece to get any traction, but you can change it up and put it on the charts. Well, damn...Good Job!
Look guys, if you take a long look at the history of Rock, you will see that basically everyone borrowed from the early black artists. Bands in England including the Beatles were in awe of lots of black roots music. How many cover songs did the Beatles do before their LPs were 100% their music? The answer is lots.
As for the rap on LZ, even the Simpsons took pot shots at LZ for ripping off black Blues artists. But really, the Stones and the Beatles did covers or were heavily influenced by black artists.
As for the rap on LZ, even the Simpsons took pot shots at LZ for ripping off black Blues artists. But really, the Stones and the Beatles did covers or were heavily influenced by black artists.
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Right on Frantz. Got to be in the top 10 rock songs of all time
Yet if you ask me to name 9 before it I would be hard pressed to do such
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