Jon Valin versus Peter Breuninger, Round One
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Axpona 2017
Yesterday I watched a video:
In that video three panelists commented on their favorite rooms (sound) this year.
I did not see or heard about other stuff that is unimportant; do you have a link...just for curiosity, nothing else.
I'm looking for positive feedback on the state-of-the-art today in our audio/music world.
I also watched that video, from last year:
Everyone seems to be happy; all the audio manufacturers, representatives, dealers, writers, organizers, chroniclers, visitors, audiophiles, buyers, speakers, ...everyone is smiling and well behaved/civilized.
Are we missing things that we should know about, or are we all honestly informed on the audio state of the affairs so that our lives are normally enhanced towards the ultimate pursuit of sound/music happiness.
I am asking seriously, and in a general way. The full pristine audio picture is painted by the entire audio industry and all the people inside of it, including us, the music listeners who support a better world to all. :b
Cheers
I feel a bit vindicated that Michael Fremer wrote in his post the exact same simple point I wrote about in my critique of Peter Breuninger's hyperbolic report about the Kronos:
"If Peter had limited his conclusion to the two other turntables with which he is very familiar then his review would have been intellectually honest. But because Peter goes on to state repeatedly that the Kronos is the best turntable available in the world today, even though he has not evaluated many of the other top turntables in the world today, he is the subject of this Introspection and Hyperbole Control Report."
Introspection and Hyperbole Control Report post #203
http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showthread.php?18367-Introspection-and-hyperbole-control/page21
"If Peter had limited his conclusion to the two other turntables with which he is very familiar then his review would have been intellectually honest. But because Peter goes on to state repeatedly that the Kronos is the best turntable available in the world today, even though he has not evaluated many of the other top turntables in the world today, he is the subject of this Introspection and Hyperbole Control Report."
Introspection and Hyperbole Control Report post #203
http://www.whatsbestforum.com/showthread.php?18367-Introspection-and-hyperbole-control/page21
personally I think this thread should be deleted and we should just move along, nothing to see here.
nothing constructive can come from posting on this. it will just reflect badly on WBF.
nothing constructive can come from posting on this. it will just reflect badly on WBF.
Maybe we are the last of the Mohicans, Mike: as indicated in my previous post I believe this thread is a waste of time.
While I find the entire issue of Breuninger vs Valin, trivial at best, I don't see how reporting, discussing about or commenting on it would reflect badly on WBF.
Maybe this thread will go off topic after a few pages into discussing Kronos pro vs acoustic signature Invictus
+1!
Just found it - I will not come back to it. But surely I defend the freedom of speech.
Fine
Delete it
Maybe someone shouldn't have informed me of it
I have my own views of Valin and Breuninger
Interestingly, nothing in this incident makes me feel worse about them
That really is saying something
Delete it
Maybe someone shouldn't have informed me of it
I have my own views of Valin and Breuninger
Interestingly, nothing in this incident makes me feel worse about them
That really is saying something
There were three of them, right: Chingachgook, Uncas and Hawkeye! And sure: I am glad as well that everybody is free to join (or not!).
This is on Facebook and other forums, so how does deleting in one place matter, I do not understand. People are free to participate or not.
Christian, how am I the drama queen?
It's others who want it swept under the carpet
That's more of a drama than reports/video
I'm not a fan of the hang it all out social media world, but hey, if I'm going to be plagued by it, it's got to apply in our hobby too
Or are we all to precious and snobby to demean ourselves?
It's others who want it swept under the carpet
That's more of a drama than reports/video
I'm not a fan of the hang it all out social media world, but hey, if I'm going to be plagued by it, it's got to apply in our hobby too
Or are we all to precious and snobby to demean ourselves?
just watch. this type subject brings out the worst in us.
time to go clean the rocks out of my tires.
This thread should be deleted. Human nature being what it is, it's almost as irresistible as slowing down to watch a traffic accident scene. But surely we can do better.
I was at Carnegie last night to hear two of the world's greatest pianists, Leif Ove Andsnes and Marc-Andre Hamelin perform works for 2 pianos by Mozart, Debussy and Stravinsky, including a rare performance of a two piano version of Le sacre du printemps (Rite of Spring). Two 9 ft Steinways, two phenomenal pianists, extraordinary music and performances, and the one and only Carnegie. Let's talk about that rather than a stupid spitting contest between numbskulls over turntables. Come home from that concert and try to turn on your humble system, no matter what it is. That might be worth talking about, although honestly, no real need for that either.
I was at Carnegie last night to hear two of the world's greatest pianists, Leif Ove Andsnes and Marc-Andre Hamelin perform works for 2 pianos by Mozart, Debussy and Stravinsky, including a rare performance of a two piano version of Le sacre du printemps (Rite of Spring). Two 9 ft Steinways, two phenomenal pianists, extraordinary music and performances, and the one and only Carnegie. Let's talk about that rather than a stupid spitting contest between numbskulls over turntables. Come home from that concert and try to turn on your humble system, no matter what it is. That might be worth talking about, although honestly, no real need for that either.
It's easy to slam people when they are not here to defend themselves. I have no opinion either way other than to say this thread is a waste of bandwidth. My opinion. Carry on.
Wow, that does sound like it was great. Last night I was at the BSO watching Sophie Anne Mutter play Tchaikovsky's Violin Concerto (one of my favorites); it was wonderful, followed by Shostakovich's 6th Symphony which was also very enjoyable. Sitting in the first balcony close to the stage the sound was so rich and clean, very humbling for an audio enthusiast!
Now this is ? news I love to hear more about.
Btw Ian, some suggested titles, for the pleasure of some eyes and ears. It comes in all types for all styles.
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