Lots of Air in There

mep

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Here is an inside picture of the Odyssey Audio Kismit mono amp. As my title says, there is lots of air in there.

Interior of kismet monoblock.jpg
 
I think the photo is partially deceptive. To me it looks like a very short signal path (on the PCB) design in a larger case that has healthy heat sinks on the outside. The aluminum bridge from the PCB to the heat sink seems to do the job of transferring heat to the larger heat sinks without having a PCB with unnecessarily longer trace routing. Additionally, it looks like he's left room for upgrading the reserve capacitance. For a mono amp in a fairly large case (19" x 19" x 6") it seems ok to me considering you could find several of the super mono amps in case designs that are almost half the size and several times the cost.

Besides, Who buys an amp to "look" at the insides vs. listening to what it does?;)

I have no comment on performance since I don't have one to listen to in my own system but they didn't sound bad at RMAF a couple years ago. I did see a 6 moons review that I have not read here:http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/odyssey2/1.html
 
Klaus is tied at the apron strings to Symphonic Line, but his products are no Symphonic Line. I applaud Klaus for building his products in the U.S., but looking at the pictures of his gear, I have never been impressed with his build quality. They all have an amateurish look about them.
 
How do they sound to you? As I said, I have not listened to them in any familiar setting.

Do you think the performance of these mono amps at least meet or exceed the price being asked when compared to what you consider to be the appropriate competition?

I'm asking because I find this subject to be somewhat interesting.

Thanks,
Dre
 
Dre-I have only heard them at RMAF 2011 and they left no lasting memories. Klaus seemed to be very disorganized at the show and he was laughing about it. I guess disorganization is part of his personality and I think it shows in every interior shot of his gear that I have seen. It doesn't inspire confidence even if the price is right.
 
Dre-I have only heard them at RMAF 2011 and they left no lasting memories. Klaus seemed to be very disorganized at the show and he was laughing about it. I guess disorganization is part of his personality and I think it shows in every interior shot of his gear that I have seen. It doesn't inspire confidence even if the price is right.

Thanks Mark. I had a nice long reply but I lost it when I clicked reply again instead of posting the quick reply. It is gone and I don't feel like recreating it again. sorry...

I did read the review in the link I posted after your comments above.

Has any WBF member/reviewer had any quality time with these amps?

Dre
 
I think the photo is partially deceptive. To me it looks like a very short signal path (on the PCB) design in a larger case that has healthy heat sinks on the outside. The aluminum bridge from the PCB to the heat sink seems to do the job of transferring heat to the larger heat sinks without having a PCB with unnecessarily longer trace routing. Additionally, it looks like he's left room for upgrading the reserve capacitance. For a mono amp in a fairly large case (19" x 19" x 6") it seems ok to me considering you could find several of the super mono amps in case designs that are almost half the size and several times the cost.

Besides, Who buys an amp to "look" at the insides vs. listening to what it does?;)

I have no comment on performance since I don't have one to listen to in my own system but they didn't sound bad at RMAF a couple years ago. I did see a 6 moons review that I have not read here:http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/odyssey2/1.html

Few. Far fewer than the number who are strongly influenced by looking at the outside of the amp, which is probably the most likely explanation for why this one seems to have so much excess case.

Tim
 
If Klaus is using the same casework for his stereo amps then he's being smart. He saves by having just a single run. All he has to do then is drill different holes as he puts the amps side by side. He then most probably passes on the savings to the consumer.
 
Emotiva.jpg

Bigger box, quite full. Inefficient design? About to melt down?

Tim
 
If Klaus is using the same casework for his stereo amps then he's being smart. He saves by having just a single run. All he has to do then is drill different holes as he puts the amps side by side. He then most probably passes on the savings to the consumer.

He is. Most all of his lineup has been and is the same way. I have even known him to take a used mono chassis and upgrade it to stereo and vice-versa for a customer. The space inside the chassis, as you can tell from the photos above, can be vast or cramped. Much of it also depends of what kinds of boards and upgrades to said boards. For instance, the Stratos [available in stereo or mono] came with a red, blue or black board and with each board came different sized components. Makes customizing or upgrading easy and budget conscious. As Jack had mentioned, it also keeps his/consumers costs down by only having to stock a couple of different chassis designs for his entire lineup.

Tom
 

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