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Seeing the NYC film, it is so clear how the technology of the automobile is displacing the horse and buggy (and so quickly). How many people had their jobs displaced by the change. Also notice how many people are wearing hats, and how many hat manufacturers must be out of business today.

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Seeing the NYC film, it is so clear how the technology of the automobile is displacing the horse and buggy (and so quickly). How many people had their jobs displaced by the change. Also notice how many people are wearing hats, and how many hat manufacturers must be out of business today.

Larry
I still wear a hat but I am not in favor of horses in NYC streets. Automobiles even smell better, imho.

Here's a nice report on the erstwhiile 3rd Avenue elevated line which, had it not been torn down in '50s, would have dominated the view from my apartment. In fact, I would not be here if the El was.
Progress is not without its side effects but it is better than stagnation.
 
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Seeing the NYC film, it is so clear how the technology of the automobile is displacing the horse and buggy (and so quickly). How many people had their jobs displaced by the change. Also notice how many people are wearing hats, and how many hat manufacturers must be out of business today.

Larry

I was thinking the same Larry; the evolution of the horse, tramway, car, ...
The paste of life was much slower 100 years ago.

As for the hats I noticed that right away from this photograph (from 2:21 to 2:31) from the video tube I posted in #5


And Kal still wears his.
 
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They still ride horses in the streets of New York City in the year 2019 don't they? You betcha ...


 

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There is a big classical music connection to the Titanic. In 1912, the London Symphony (which was only 8 years old at the time) was scheduled to sail on the Titanic for their first American tour. However, the sister ship to the Titanic, the Olympic which had been launched earlier, was involved in a collision and the construction of the Titanic was delayed because of the accident and the needed repairs. The LSO was rescheduled on a different ship for their North American tour (led by the world famous conductor Arthur Nikitsch who had chosen the LSO over the Berlin Philharmonic which he also conducted regularly). They took the other ship and had a safe journey and tour.

When the Titanic was launched, it was the largest passenger ship in the world, holding about 2200 passengers and 900 crew with a gross tonnage of slight less than 50,000 tons. In comparison, the Queen Mary 2 (owned by the successor to the owner of the Titanic) holds about 10% more passengers, a third more crew, but weighs 3 times as much. Stability is much better as well as the ability to spot icebergs. Not a trivial problem with global warming and big chunks of ice floating into the sea lanes in the North Atlantic.

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I still wear a hat but I am not in favor of horses in NYC streets. Automobiles even smell better, imho.

Here's a nice report on the erstwhiile 3rd Avenue elevated line which, had it not been torn down in '50s, would have dominated the view from my apartment. In fact, I would not be here if the El was.
Progress is not without its side effects but it is better than stagnation.

All the people living in those apartments right beside the tracks; that must have been tough to adjust their turntables for good tracking, and also the room's acoustic treatments.
It takes nerves of steel to be an audiophile in those areas near the tracks

In that video he said that there was less vandalism in those years.

I had flashbacks of the film The French Connection (1971).

So you grew up in that area Kal, the reason of your wearing that hat.
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I had flashbacks of the film The French Connection (1971).
AFAIK, that was in Queens.

So you grew up in that area Kal, the reason of your wearing that hat.
As noted, I did not grow up in the area. I began wearing a hat to keep the sun off my otherwise unprotected scalp.
 

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AFAIK, that was in Queens.

Amazing car chase, totally nuts back in 1971. Today (almost fifty years later - 48) a filmmaker would need a permit. They were very lucky that they didn't end up in jail.

I've never live in New York Kal, only passing through by train.
I've never been in Queens, in the Bronx, in the big Apple, New Jersey, Brooklyn Bridge, ...

As noted, I did not grow up in the area. I began wearing a hat to keep the sun off my otherwise unprotected scalp.

I meant the view.
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So you grew up in that area Kal, the reason of your wearing that hat.
As noted, I did not grow up in the area. I began wearing a hat to keep the sun off my otherwise unprotected scalp.
I meant the view.
Well, then, I am not sure what you are getting at. The picture you show is near the southern end of the line, near City Hall (second spire from the right). I lived and grew up in Brooklyn at the time.
 

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Kal said:
I still wear a hat but I am not in favor of horses in NYC streets. Automobiles even smell better, imho.

Here's a nice report on the erstwhiile 3rd Avenue elevated line which, had it not been torn down in '50s, would have dominated the view from my apartment. In fact, I would not be here if the El was.

It's very not important. Elevated trains were a way of moving around back then and almost everyone was wearing a hat. Today elevated trains are still with us (Chicago, Montreal, Vancouver, Toronto) and we have subways and metro. Elon Musk is even developing a new underground way to travel in cities. ...The Boring Company.


You are a New Yorker for many years, the city of busy activity and traffic, including the horses in Central Park. Lots of history in New York.
 
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