Great feedback on your Jorma Prime pc Paul. Your description of tonal richness, image accuracy and amazing detail are pretty much what I would have expected. Prime is a sophisticated cable & terrific match with Vitus imho. Siltech Royal Signature series is also a great match; bass is excellent & they're possibly the quietest cables I've ever heard, but I would say Prime sounds a bit more organic & delicate. Horses for courses as they say!
power cords for Vitus SM-101 Monoblocks , what do you think can match?
- Thread starter pelo911
- Start date
I know you liked your Transparent cables but you must try the Goebel cables. They let everything through unhindered...top, top quality. They must be heard to be believed. I have listened to the top cables from Transparent, MIT, Jorma, Nordost, etc. (in different systems though) and I ended up with the Goebels.
Thf, just curious as you referenced listening to Jorma's top cables; have you listened to the Jorma Statement sc's?
Thanks and good to know...I got some information about them yesterday to read this weekend. Most intrigued now!
Just to provide some perspective Thf, did you a-b test Goebel cables against the Jorma Statements in the same system?
I think Thf99 did add he heard them in different systems...will be interesting of course if he did a/b them directly.
Lloyd was right. I mentioned that they were all heard in different systems and there was no way I could A/B them. The owners of these systems are very private people and listening is only by special invitation.
With the caveat there is really no such thing as a bad cable at this level, you can't compare different brands and models of cables in different systems (too many variables). All this exercise really does is tell you how good a particular loom of cables work in that system, and maybe gives you some insight into their sound.
Last edited:
I didn't make any comparison as I couldn't given the circumstances. In each of these system, I just listened to the tonal balance, coherence and noise floor. Yes, at this level, there are no bad cables, just personal preference.
I have . Beside that I heard both Jorma Prime & Statement in 2 other syst. I like jorma statement for its neutrality . Relaxing & easy on the ears . Good for long hours listening . As for Goebel , is as though the volume is turn up 2 notches . Much more exciting . For the price I would prefer Goebel . Jorma Statement cost more than 30%. At the end of the day, our preferences vary . To each its own
Last edited:
Your description of the Jorma Statements sounds pretty accurate as far as their house sound goes, though I would expect the Statements to be on another level compared to Prime given the uptick in price. I actually find the twin runs of Statement wires nice on the eye to be honest. Goebel cables do indeed look well made. They use silver plated OFC, so the additional volume you perceived is likely the inherent brightness which is synonymous with silver cables. I agree silver cables immediately sound more exciting, though I find that wears on me after a while. I personally prefer the natural/organic sound of Jorma over the long haul, though this is a very subjective science. As you said, each to their own.
I tend to agree with Bodhi on this one, that if it seems the volume is higher this may be due to odd order harmonic distortion which manifests itself as loudness cues, not good...you should feel encouraged to turn it up, not down. 'Exciting' is not desirable in the long term over 'real'. I would be curious to know the pricing on the various cables mentioned.
Bodhi ... Gobel is not pure silver . More an alloy.....silver , copper plus an undisclosed third metal (secret sauce) 
. Not heard it myself , but by all accounts thus far the Gobel 's are not tipped up in balance . Supposedly has a very solid deep founded almost subterranean bass root . Having used a whole Jorma Prime loom myself , found the signal cables to be far superior to the PC's , but vey unpredictable as to how the bybees react between components . Have since moved on to Stage 3 and very happy too , but must admit that the Gobel's have piqued my interest ....
. Not heard it myself , but by all accounts thus far the Gobel 's are not tipped up in balance . Supposedly has a very solid deep founded almost subterranean bass root . Having used a whole Jorma Prime loom myself , found the signal cables to be far superior to the PC's , but vey unpredictable as to how the bybees react between components . Have since moved on to Stage 3 and very happy too , but must admit that the Gobel's have piqued my interest ....I guess that goes to show the subjective nature of this business. I find the Prime pc's @ $5k (not $10k or $14k) to be excellent value for money. And you're the first audiophile I've heard report wild variations between applications of Prime xlr's. I guess some folks like to use cables as tone controls, whist others prize cables for their natural/organic, harmonically rich & mellifluous sound. Horses for courses as they say..Bodhi ... Gobel is not pure silver . More an alloy.....silver , copper plus an undisclosed third metal (secret sauce)
Not wild variations , more unpredictability . Check out Bob Levi's Origo review , says something similar . So not the only person to have experienced this .... http://www.positive-feedback.com/Issue48/jorma_origo.htm
Last edited:
, Goebel PC 2m 7.5k euro including VAT. 3m speaker cable euro 20k with VAT & 1.2m IC euro 5k VAT.
Brian . Price as above.
Bodhi , jazz head - hearing is believing . Thf 99 have 3 nordost Odin in his syst . To him , for source , Goebel is comparable to Odin . For his mephisto power amp he prefers Goebel.
Jazz head , you are right about the bass performance of Goebel cable . I can only described it as awesome .
I have not compare it with Kraken but will probably have the opportunity to compare it to Siltech double or triple crowds PC
Brian . Price as above.
Bodhi , jazz head - hearing is believing . Thf 99 have 3 nordost Odin in his syst . To him , for source , Goebel is comparable to Odin . For his mephisto power amp he prefers Goebel.
Jazz head , you are right about the bass performance of Goebel cable . I can only described it as awesome .
I have not compare it with Kraken but will probably have the opportunity to compare it to Siltech double or triple crowds PC
Similar threads
