So are you saying that one configuration is the Jadis on the mid range and tweeter and the Italian amp on the woofer?
No I am talking about Jadis full range versus MastersounD full range.

Are you conflating brightness with more detail and resolution?
No; I'm well aware of how brightness in the presence region can be misinterpreted as detail and resolution.
 
Phil 213Cobra said firmly that he hears the Italians as having better "tonality" than the frenchies. He agrees with me on the resolution point. Phil also heard greater depth and better sound-staging with the Italians.
 
This is a much more detailed response to the sonic differences the mirror earlier simple statement.

So are you saying that one configuration is the Jadis on the mid range and tweeter and the Italian amp on the woofer?

Are you conflating brightness with more detail and resolution?
He is also conflating more musicality, sonic charm, and fullness of Jadis vs DHT with better ability to drive. Well matched and well done DHT amps have way more musicality and sonic charm with fullness. NAF2a3, airtight 300b, master sound 845, silvercore 833c were all better than the 100w Jadis integrated on Devore O96. So it is more to do with amp and speaker match rather than simply saying what Jadis is better at or what Italians and DHTs are not good at
 
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No I am talking about Jadis full range versus MastersounD full range.


No; I'm well aware of how brightness in the presence region can be misinterpreted as detail and resolution.

OK, I misunderstood. You had written that your friends preferred the Jadi driving the midrange and tweeter when you wrote this: "For the record, the favorite iteration of the system so far of Don and of and of David Blumenstein and of Jim Yager and of Pat and of Pat's girlfriend had Jadis driving the midrange/tweeter." What was driving the woofer?

I see. Yesterday you described the "Italians" as sounding bright. Today you describe them as having more detail and resolution. Is the sudden change in presentation due to break in, tube swaps or something else?
 
He is also conflating more musicality, sonic charm, and fullness of Jadis vs DHT with better ability to drive. Well matched and well done DHT amps have way more musicality and sonic charm with fullness. NAF2a3, airtight 300b, master sound 845, silvercore 833c were all better than the 100w Jadis integrated on Devore O96. So it is more to do with amp and speaker match rather than simply saying what Jadis is better at or what Italians and DHTs are not good at
NAF 2A3 is a push/pull amp, not SET.
 
Westminster labs?

Ron said he is comparing the Mastersound and the Jadis amplifiers both running full range, but I still can’t make sense of the earlier comment that his friends preferred the Jadis driving the mid range and tweeter. Maybe that was an earlier configuration with it third amplifier driving the woofers. It’s all rather confusing to me.
 
Ron said he is comparing the Mastersound and the Jadis amplifiers both running full range, but I still can’t make sense of the earlier comment that his friends preferred the Jadis driving the mid range and tweeter. Maybe that was an earlier configuration with it third amplifier driving the woofers. It’s all rather confusing to me.

Yes I think that was an SS amp. Either the Westminster or something else. Tough to keep up with all the box swaps
 
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I think the aesthetic design of the amp is beautiful (as audio components go). It still puzzles me why this is the only 845 x 4 PSET in the world.
Unison Research Reference amps: As far as I know very few, if any at all have been imported into the USA, I was only able to listen to a pair in Europe in early 2000s. Bonzo75 & Morricab should know more about these.....1746396470486.png
 
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One audiophile's "dark" is another audiophile's "perfect.":)



I think I'm about at 90 hours. It's definitely heading in the right direction.

I hear, and Don hears, and I think Phil hears, the Italians are sounding a little more powerful on the speakers than the JA100s.
90 hours , you still need quite a bit longer.
 
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Unison Research Reference amps: As far as I know very few, if any at all have been imported into the USA, I was only able to listen to a pair in Europe in early 2000s. Bonzo75 & Morricab should know more about these.....View attachment 149752
Never heard this one but not a big fan of Unison amps...at least the ones I have heard.
 
Unison Research Reference amps: As far as I know very few, if any at all have been imported into the USA, I was only able to listen to a pair in Europe in early 2000s. Bonzo75 & Morricab should know more about these.....View attachment 149752

They are usually quite low watt and even for the wattage have less drive than some other amps. Look nice but nothing special
 
No I am talking about Jadis full range versus MastersounD full range.


No; I'm well aware of how brightness in the presence region can be misinterpreted as detail and resolution.

Phil 213Cobra said firmly that he hears the Italians as having better "tonality" than the frenchies. He agrees with me on the resolution point. Phil also heard greater depth and better sound-staging with the Italians.

Are the Frenchies sounding nasally?
 

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