Way back in March, I ordered 100 sets of Telegaertner cat 8 plugs for delivery by end of April. Something so simple, what could possibly go wrong?!? Subcontractor covid related issues, that’s what came along...anyhow they finally arrived today and I can crack on with working through my order backlog. Thanks to those who have waited for their patience.
Sablon Ethernet - 2020 model
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Definitely worth the wait...love these cables! Glad you're past the speed bump Mark!
Earlier in this thread, I posted a photographic teardown of how the TG cat 8 plug is put together. I’ll now do likewise for its industrial cousin, the M12X. As you will see, the cable gets pulled through the rear cover and into a rose head wire manage. As the rear cover gets tightened down, the wires are crushed onto the ‘forks’ of the contact pins.
Interesting. Do you see anything in its construction that might explain why it might be better than the MFP8 Cat 8.1 as a termination plug other than the fact that the individual end wires and pins are better spaced on the M12X. Better separation equals better crosstalk performance, etc?
I personally don’t see any reason why the M12x should be considered better for audio use than the cat8 mfp plug. It actually has a lower bandwidth despite the physical spacing / shielding you refer to. Its design is aimed at withstanding vibration in railway applications and the only audio application I have seen using this format is Telegartner’s Gold switch.
Got my 2nd piece of sablon ethernet cable and replaced supra Cat8 LAN.
Again the elevation is quite significant. The bass is much tighter and authorative. Noise goes down quite significantly, with improved transparency and dynamics.
Recommended this to another friend and glad that he is very happy with recent acquisition of 2 pieces of sablon LAN
Glad you’re enjoying building out your loom Pang and, yes, James has been pretty blown away by the uptick over his old generic cables! Network is certainly a high delta area for improvements and he is now following our advice to evaluate a Plixir lps on his router.
I have been busy the last few days testing out various network related products. The Sablon 2020 Ethernet cable, Melco & SoTM switches, sfp transceivers etc. From what I have expereinced, the Sablon 2020 Ethernet cable is now my reference cable, replacing JCat Signature Gold and the SoTM Cat7. It gives the most satisfying sound out of the last 6-7 cables I had played around with. Some of which includes JCat, SoTM, Audioquest Diamond & Vodka, Viard Silver, Synergistic Research older model Galileo UEF, Supra etc.
The only cable I am still not sure about is the $2,995 Galileo SX, which I had with me for about 2 weeks a couple of months ago. It was one hell of a cable but due to the high price, I decided not keep it.
Back to Sablon, and why I chose it as my reference. I first got the cable about 2-3 weeks ago. With out any hours on it, I was a bit skeptical when I first plugged it in. The mid-high was silky smooth. The soundstage width and depth was very good and well defined. Transcient was great, fast and crisp. The only thing lacking was, the bass was a couple db lower than the SoTM and I wished there was a bit more density and fullness in the mid-low. I had a chat with Mark and he told me to give it a few hundred hours before judging. Well he was right. After 200-240 hours or so, the sound filled out. The sound became well balanced. Bass and body came. Together with the resolution, the well defined wide and deep soudstage, pinpoint imaging, smooth and airy mid-high, I was fully satisfied. I would say it has better resolution, smoother mid-high and a better cable overall than the SoTM. Compare to the JCat, I prefer the Sablon. The JCat is a very neutral cable overall, and didn't lack anything. But it is what the Sablon offers in extra that makes me prefer it over the JCat. I would say the Sablon gives a more enjoyable sound. It just has more air, better soundstage, and a bit more soul and musicality. I hope this helps with those who are still looking for a great ethernet cable. Sablon with it's current price is in my opinion the best buy cable out there. The quality you get for the price can not be matched by anything I know of, at least most every cables I know of under $3000. Give it a try and you will be glad you did. A truly wonderful cable.
The only cable I am still not sure about is the $2,995 Galileo SX, which I had with me for about 2 weeks a couple of months ago. It was one hell of a cable but due to the high price, I decided not keep it.
Back to Sablon, and why I chose it as my reference. I first got the cable about 2-3 weeks ago. With out any hours on it, I was a bit skeptical when I first plugged it in. The mid-high was silky smooth. The soundstage width and depth was very good and well defined. Transcient was great, fast and crisp. The only thing lacking was, the bass was a couple db lower than the SoTM and I wished there was a bit more density and fullness in the mid-low. I had a chat with Mark and he told me to give it a few hundred hours before judging. Well he was right. After 200-240 hours or so, the sound filled out. The sound became well balanced. Bass and body came. Together with the resolution, the well defined wide and deep soudstage, pinpoint imaging, smooth and airy mid-high, I was fully satisfied. I would say it has better resolution, smoother mid-high and a better cable overall than the SoTM. Compare to the JCat, I prefer the Sablon. The JCat is a very neutral cable overall, and didn't lack anything. But it is what the Sablon offers in extra that makes me prefer it over the JCat. I would say the Sablon gives a more enjoyable sound. It just has more air, better soundstage, and a bit more soul and musicality. I hope this helps with those who are still looking for a great ethernet cable. Sablon with it's current price is in my opinion the best buy cable out there. The quality you get for the price can not be matched by anything I know of, at least most every cables I know of under $3000. Give it a try and you will be glad you did. A truly wonderful cable.
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Just installed sablon2020 ethernet cable between my ISP modem/router and cisco 2960 switch, before the double stack of Ether regens master clocked by sotm. It replaces a gotham cable. Big impact !Since I have after that 3 other ethernet cables candidate for change (
ET^2 Ethernet Cable from Stordiau (Peter Lush fame) , one purist audio CAT7).
Has anyone compared sablon 2020 to these cables?
https://stordiau.com/collections/cables-and-more-snakes-oil/products/ethist-2-ethernet-cable
ET^2 Ethernet Cable from Stordiau (Peter Lush fame) , one purist audio CAT7).
Has anyone compared sablon 2020 to these cables?
https://stordiau.com/collections/cables-and-more-snakes-oil/products/ethist-2-ethernet-cable
A pair of 2020 Sablon ethernet finally reached Melbourne all the way from London, took about 18 days to reach here. Thanks Mark @Sablon Audio
My new 0,5 m 2020 Sablon Panatela Reserva ethernet cable is installed between Uptone Audio EtherREGEN and Sonore UltraRendu - where it matters most. My other network cables are from Ghent Audio (JSSG360).
I've been loop-playing now for almost a week continuously - and today I was nearly blown off the chair. Compared to my previous swedish made Supra 8 cable - the Sablon cable is in another league! The dynamics was now back, but in a very controlled and pleasent way. Especially upper bass and lower midrange is very well articulated. Acoustic instruments are shaped very precise with good space all around, and recorded room acoustics blend beautifully into the instrumental mix. And grand piano recordings - wow! Highly recommended
Tom
I've been loop-playing now for almost a week continuously - and today I was nearly blown off the chair. Compared to my previous swedish made Supra 8 cable - the Sablon cable is in another league! The dynamics was now back, but in a very controlled and pleasent way. Especially upper bass and lower midrange is very well articulated. Acoustic instruments are shaped very precise with good space all around, and recorded room acoustics blend beautifully into the instrumental mix. And grand piano recordings - wow! Highly recommended
Tom
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My new 0,5 m 2020 Sablon Panatela Reserva ethernet cable is installed between Uptone Audio EtherREGEN and Sonore UltraRendu - where it matters most. My other network cables are from Ghent Audio (JSSG360).
I've been loop-playing now for almost a week continuously - and today I was nearly blown off the chair. Compared to my previous swedish made Supra 8 cable - the Sablon cable is in another league! The dynamics was now back, but in a very controlled and pleasent way. Especially upper bass and lower midrange is very well articulated. Acoustic instruments are shaped very precise with good space all around, and recorded room acoustics blend beautifully into the instrumental mix. And grand piano recordings - wow! Highly recommended
Tom
TwinPeak, first thanks for your review and photo. This may be a bit OT but what are those weights?/stabilizers in your photo that are sitting on top of the EtherRegen? Do you use these for performance purposes or to keep a light weight device in-place from the pull/stiffness of the cable. I use Mark's Lan cable's in several locations and have been trying to find something that is attractive as yours to serve this purpose but what I have now is much too utilitarian.
Thanks!
I received 2 Sablon Ethernet 2020 60cm (= 2feet) 2 weeks ago, and I am completely amazed:
On my system they are incredible and surpass everything I've listened to so far.
The burning is quite painful and alternates between moments of happiness and total disappointment (between 90h and 138h I had to turn off the amp!).
At about 150h the sound is already very good and has nothing to do with what you heard before, a new level is reached... There you notice that you're dealing with very, very high quality cable. (It reminds me a bit of the Vertere Pulse HB, except that I find the Sablon more natural, more musical) Well I'm not saying that the Vertere is less good, because when I tried it I didn't have exactly this configuration and I didn't wait 300 hours, but at the time and for its price it lacked this little natural side, imho.
Back at the Sablon, later listening carefully and being a bit greedy, it still seemed to lack a little bit of flesh on the bone and why not a little pinch of naturalness. You'd think that's already quite a good deal it's giving for the price.
Well don't move the boat, from 220 h, everything is there. The natural side it was missing is there, the fat on the bone too!
Name of Zeus, this cable has zero default. It is simply fantastic!
I still find it hard to believe that it's those 2 small pieces of cable that do all this work on my system.
I really wonder if I should not try the whole Sablon range now...
On my system they are incredible and surpass everything I've listened to so far.
The burning is quite painful and alternates between moments of happiness and total disappointment (between 90h and 138h I had to turn off the amp!).At about 150h the sound is already very good and has nothing to do with what you heard before, a new level is reached... There you notice that you're dealing with very, very high quality cable. (It reminds me a bit of the Vertere Pulse HB, except that I find the Sablon more natural, more musical) Well I'm not saying that the Vertere is less good, because when I tried it I didn't have exactly this configuration and I didn't wait 300 hours, but at the time and for its price it lacked this little natural side, imho.
Back at the Sablon, later listening carefully and being a bit greedy, it still seemed to lack a little bit of flesh on the bone and why not a little pinch of naturalness. You'd think that's already quite a good deal it's giving for the price.
Well don't move the boat, from 220 h, everything is there. The natural side it was missing is there, the fat on the bone too!
Name of Zeus, this cable has zero default. It is simply fantastic!
I still find it hard to believe that it's those 2 small pieces of cable that do all this work on my system.
I really wonder if I should not try the whole Sablon range now...
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Door stoppers.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01KWPU1RY/
John Darko made those door stoppers popular audiophile devices. They do a good job adding some extra weight to small devices like the EthereREGEN and the UltraRendu. A lot of people use them.
What nobody talks about is what is inside. There is a heavy piece of scrap metal. Highly magnetic metal. We go through such extends to remove magnetic parts from our systems.
Since this is a Sablon thread, let me give you an example - I am only aware of a handful number of cable companies that use the monster AC plugs Mark uses in his Sablon Prince and King power cords. But if you run across one of them and put a strong magnet next to the monster connector you may find that there are magnetic parts inside. Mark has paid attention to every detail and has replaced the stock magnetic parts with non-magnetic. That level of attention to details is what makes his products so good and well regarded.
I use those door stoppers in my system too, but be careful where you put them.
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Hi,
Yes, they are heavy "door stoppers" that help light weight components to stay in place, when connected to stiff cables. They also act like "heatsinks".
Tom
TwinPeak, Nenon, thanks for the info on the high-tech door stops and share your concern regarding magnetic content. I will search for the Darko recommendation. There are other similar items on Amazon that are described as high quality stainless steel. Given that there is stainless steel that is non-magnetic perhaps I will be able to locate something that will be more appropriate. Either way thanks again for the info.
The ones I have are stainless steel on the outside with a chunk of rusty (literally) magnetic metal on the inside.
Sorry for the offtopic messages.
Just received my LAN cable, a huge upgrade from my PPA cable.....
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