SuperHiRez DSD downloads...any one biting?

I never owned the SACD so I can't say anything about how it compares. I will have to go back and listen to my 24/192 version of Tea for the Tillerman to hear if his voice sounds more like it does on LP or close to what the DSD sounds like. Whether you love digital and hate analog or you love analog and hate digital or you are somewhere in between, I don't expect to hear such huge differences in a singer's voice moving from one format to another. All I'm saying is that something funny is going on here and I don't know what it is. I'm sure some people will blame my system and I'm fine with that.
 
I never owned the SACD so I can't say anything about how it compares. I will have to go back and listen to my 24/192 version of Tea for the Tillerman to hear if his voice sounds more like it does on LP or close to what the DSD sounds like. Whether you love digital and hate analog or you love analog and hate digital or you are somewhere in between, I don't expect to hear such huge differences in a singer's voice moving from one format to another. All I'm saying is that something funny is going on here and I don't know what it is. I'm sure some people will blame my system and I'm fine with that.

His voice was very much different from even the lowly domestic pressing and the first QRP from Chad. Just sayin'.
 
Can you elaborate John?

I thought his voice sounded aged on the QRP. That youthful vibrancy was gone. The QRP is still a wonderful LP, but they missed a bit.
 
I never owned the SACD so I can't say anything about how it compares. I will have to go back and listen to my 24/192 version of Tea for the Tillerman to hear if his voice sounds more like it does on LP or close to what the DSD sounds like. Whether you love digital and hate analog or you love analog and hate digital or you are somewhere in between, I don't expect to hear such huge differences in a singer's voice moving from one format to another. All I'm saying is that something funny is going on here and I don't know what it is. I'm sure some people will blame my system and I'm fine with that.

So can a DAC do all formats with equal aplomb? Or will the DAC favor DSD or PCM?

What you describe as the difference between DSD and PCM is exactly what I heard with the Aurender playing back 192/24 vs. 44/16 at RMAF. The 16/44 was thin, edgy, flat, washed out, etc. Instruments done 192/24 actually had some meat on the bones and harmonics.
 
So can a DAC do all formats with equal aplomb? Or will the DAC favor DSD or PCM?

What you describe as the difference between DSD and PCM is exactly what I heard with the Aurender playing back 192/24 vs. 44/16 at RMAF. The 16/44 was thin, edgy, flat, washed out, etc. Instruments done 192/24 actually had some meat on the bones and harmonics.

Good question Myles. I think I know the answer, but I have been wrong so many times lately I'm going to keep my mouth shut.
 
I have the original cd and two hirez downloads . I will compare them, this whole hirez is just dia pointing and reall frustrating. The reason I asked about the vinyl to dsd is it just gives us the way it was at first. As some of the so called remasters still stink. Here is one you all should remember . Aqualung. Remember this . I must have 5 different copies of this . And newer remaster is just as bad and it is mixed differently . Like in the guitar solo the guitar is just not in front . This is one reason I said what I said. And to me it is a much simpler product to produce . You must need a really good turntable and cartridge and a dsd recorder. I am not looking to steal either just, get the best product easily .
 
IIRC Tea for the Tillerman was mastered at Lyric Hifi by Cat Stevens on a big pair of Maggies. It was a vision by the musician, and he got the sound he wanted. Later re-issues were re-mastered by various mastering engineers and not Cat Steven's version. I am absolutely sure that the mastering engineer thought he did a better job..... but then it's his sound.

I posted recordings of some 5 or 6 different vinyls - and they all sounded very different. Different enough that I could accurately identify each one blind. I know that there was one I preferred over all the others, but other people I know have preferred different re-issues from the one I preferred.
 
I don't think any recording studios had Magneplanars in 1970, but I could be wrong...
 
Wow thanks Gary. This music seen is just all over the place. The cd I have has the deep voice heavy bass version. Wild world is a song I use to setup subs and adjust bass . If done well it's deep but not booming. It's very nice of you to take your time to get answers.

Al. D
 
I don't think any recording studios had Magneplanars in 1970, but I could be wrong...

It wasn't a recording studio, it was Lyric Hifi.
 
IIRC Tea for the Tillerman was mastered at Lyric Hifi by Cat Stevens on a big pair of Maggies. It was a vision by the musician, and he got the sound he wanted. Later re-issues were re-mastered by various mastering engineers and not Cat Steven's version. I am absolutely sure that the mastering engineer thought he did a better job..... but then it's his sound.

Gary,
As far as I remember from an old article in TAS Cat Stevens bough Tympani speakers from Lyric Hifi and was a regular of the shop, bringing there his mixes, but the mastering was not carried in their premises. But I may be wrong, I read it long ago!
 
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Funny , maybe that's why the bass is so strong as the Maggie's were bass light right ?
 
The first issue was mastered by Lee Hulko at Sterling Sound. These were the UK Island and US A&M records.
 
It wasn't a recording studio, it was Lyric Hifi.
Mastered at a hifi store? Doubtful, although it's certainly possible he might have listened to some test pressings or interim masterings there, I suppose. Does anyone know how many Magneplanars had shipped by mid-1970? Or do you suppose the album in question was not TFTT but rather a later one?
 
Gary,
As far as I remember from an old article in TAS Cat Stevens bough Tympani speakers from Lyric Hifi and was a regular of the shop, bringing their his mixes, but the mastering was not carried in their premises. But I may be wrong, I read it long ago!

Yes you remember correctly.
 
Mastered at a hifi store? Doubtful, although it's certainly possible he might have listened to some test pressings or interim masterings there, I suppose. Does anyone know how many Magneplanars had shipped by mid-1970? Or do you suppose the album in question was not TFTT but rather a later one?

I didn't say it was mastered at Lyric, Gary did. You followed up his comment by asking which recording studio was using Magnapan speakers back then and I just pointed out that Gary said it happened at Lyric.
 
I didn't say it was mastered at Lyric, Gary did. You followed up his comment by asking which recording studio was using Magnapan speakers back then and I just pointed out that Gary said it happened at Lyric.
True, I was responding to the "mastered" part of the comment. I'm also pretty sure that although the company was called Magnepan, the only speakers they sold then were called Magneplanars :p
 
True, I was responding to the "mastered" part of the comment. I'm also pretty sure that although the company was called Magnepan, the only speakers they sold then were called Magneplanars :p

Caught me on a typo. I'm busted.
 

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