Yea, but who cares? Is anyone really in the market for digital music recorded from LP?
SuperHiRez DSD downloads...any one biting?
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Yea, but who cares? Is anyone really in the market for digital music recorded from LP?
yes i am . i am not looking to spend 100k on a turntable and cartridge . but someone who has this i would buy the recordings. that album is a good example of what is wrong here. if we could download both types of our choice from a hirez site wouldn't you?
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Perhaps Bruce can expand on this, but don't many DSD workstations edit the files in DXD, a very high resolution PCM, then go back to DSD?
So you are telling us in no uncertain terms that they pulled out the MASTER ANALOG tape YET AGAIN to do a special DSD archive just for this download, when every other
DSD download on the site was created from the corresponding SACD files. I find that very hard to believe that they did this for one title out of 150 or so.
Secondly, "incorrect" credits is the type of +bullshit+ that is going to destroy the market. We already have a huge credibility issue with hi rez, and there
is no room for error.
Assuming this is true, which I have major doubts, they are essentially saying who ever bought the $30 Marino SACD is a sucker.
Not really. How is this any different from buying an amp from a manufacturer and a year later a new model comes out?
Same situation with the amplifier, if you are happy with the sound of the SACD that is really all that matters.
I trust Gus over a marketing blurb on the Acoustic Sounds website. I have noticed many errors on that site with vinyl mastering credits.
Not that simple. You just don't pull out a tape to do another archive..why not pull out ALL the Marino masterings and re do them..?
So are they going to refund all the those buyers the 30 bucks who bought the first go around? I think not.
I think you just completely glossed over my post...
Here it is in bold
How is this any different from buying an amp from a manufacturer and a year later a new model comes out?
Same situation with the amplifier, if you are happy with the sound of the SACD that is really all that matters.
There is ALWAYS a new reissue for the audiophile favorites. The new one is always "better" than the one before according to the pros.
No, I did not gloss over anything. With all due respect, your amplifier analogy is meaningless to this discussion.
Being happy with the SACD is another story. That is in the eye of the beholder. Clearly mep was NOT happy with the sound
of his SACD download.
Titles do not get remastered within a year of each other in the same format with any regularity.
The SACD disc came out in 2011.
mep is unhappy with the sound of the DSD download, not the same as the SACD disc according to Gus.
I agree is unusual to have a reissue come out in the same format within a couple of years, but it's not unheard of. I know a few vinyl reissues that were reissued by different companies within very short periods.
This is true. This whole thing has a stench to it in my opinion.."incorrect" liner notes, an SACD out in 2011, etc. etc.
Does not bode well for the future.
MEP,
what exactly was it with this DSD version you did not like, did it sound closer to say some of the better hirez PCM releases or was it something else?
I appreciate and agree there is usually a trait that differentiates DSD and PCM so curious what it was about this one that made you feel so strongly negative about this DSD release.
Thanks
Orb
Andre-I can only tell you what Gus told me. The only dog I have in the fight is the $24 I spent for the DSD download. I said it sounds like PCM and now I'm being told that it was a straight DSD transfer by the guy who did it. I'm going to take him at his word which means I was wrong in my assumption. There is still something funny sounding about this transfer to my ears on my system, but someone would probably say it's due to my Mytek Stereo 192 DAC. JTinn says it sounds great at his house. If Cat Stevens' voice doesn't sound emasculated on DSD compared to the vinyl pressing, than something is amiss in my digital world.
Orb-The sound of DSD in my system has that relaxing, engaging, and smooth quality that I usually associate with analog. I have stated on numerous occasions that the reason I like DSD and can listen to it for hours is that it is very analog-like to my ears. PCM always sounds a little edgy and more thin compared to what I hear with analog or DSD. In my system with my Mytek Stereo 192, the DSD of Tea for the Tillerman has robbed the life out of Cat Stevens' voice and vocal range. If you have the ability to playback the DSD file and the latest version of the LP from Acoustic Sounds, I would love to hear your opinion. I won't rule out the possibility that my Mytek is castrating male singers, but this is the first time I have ever noticed that effect. It's not subtle, it's dramatic when you hear the differences between the LP and the DSD.
Thanks mep,
unfortunately I am currently more focused on PCM than DSD.
Would you say the voice and vocal range then sounds closer to the trait of what you expect from hirez PCM in your experience?
TBH I would not compare either DSD or PCM to an LP release, even though DSD is closer to that sound trait than PCM in general.
LP Mastering in many ways is also an art it seems due to the extra variables-constraints-traits-process involved; couple of the best LP mastering studios recognised here in the UK are always busy.
Sorry if I missed it, did you or anyone else compare the older SACD release to the latest DSD?
Appreciate this is going to be tricky due to levels,etc, be interesting if still prefer the LP to the SACD.
Cheers
Orb
unfortunately I am currently more focused on PCM than DSD.
Would you say the voice and vocal range then sounds closer to the trait of what you expect from hirez PCM in your experience?
TBH I would not compare either DSD or PCM to an LP release, even though DSD is closer to that sound trait than PCM in general.
LP Mastering in many ways is also an art it seems due to the extra variables-constraints-traits-process involved; couple of the best LP mastering studios recognised here in the UK are always busy.
Sorry if I missed it, did you or anyone else compare the older SACD release to the latest DSD?
Appreciate this is going to be tricky due to levels,etc, be interesting if still prefer the LP to the SACD.
Cheers
Orb
