The [coffee snobs'] espresso thread

rando

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Sorry I missed this! I've seen the Robot and some other similar devices. I assume it's very similar to the Forge, but maybe the design provides better leverage, the Forge does take a decent amount of force to achieve 9 bars. It's not too much, but I guess that's relative. I think some may find it requires too much force to easily use.

I'd expect the results to be identical as long as they can both be preheated similarly, that's the big issue with both of them vs machines with boilers. OTOH boilers take some time to heat up, some machines require 45 min to get to ideal temps, while a kettle can get boiling very quickly. With the Forge, I put it on top of the kettle w/o it's basket, it fits on a std gooseneck kettle you'd use for pourover nicely. Then I further preheat it by using a blank portafilter basket used for backflushing. I also use a stainless steel mesh cover on top of the basket so when you pour in the hot water it doesn't disturb the puck (link below).


Appreciate the detailed reply. My feeling is you are correct they both result in a highly similar output where effort has been put in.

From a glance it was hard to assign how they might differ. Other than possible injuries.
 

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