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How many DMM D2D recording exist?
 

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And so?
 

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We all know this. What is your point Vis a Vis real time hearing'? Have you?
 
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We all know this. What is your point Vis a Vis real time hearing'? Have you?

I have, and have found the direct to disc process to be the truest of all currently available formats.

Direct metal masters are more comparible to carefully made master tapes.
 

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Cool!

Please indicate the release you speak of. I am a former owner of a ( lacquer ) VMS70 and know many of these machines....
 

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On which machine?
 

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Do you know where you where?
 

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Do you know where you where?

Again, these were private test involving distinguished members of the audio and recording industry. No names or locations will be divulged!

I was an audio inventor and engineer for several decades. My hearing acuity was especially revered.

I invented a replacement for vinyl records. The technical description for this invention is a full spectrum, frequency-modulated optical analog disc format (12" laserdisc).
 

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I have, and have found the direct to disc process to be the truest of all currently available formats.

Direct metal masters are more comparible to carefully made master tapes.
This is a very interesting observation. Only the VMS82 is capable of cutting DMM, but many of these have been converted to cut lacquer.
If you want to hear what a DMM dubplate sounds like, and don't mind the expense, Stockfish has these for sale. https://www.stockfisch-records.de/pages_art/sf12_dmmdp.html
 
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OK @SoundMann all is good. You brought it up yet you wont specify. Apparently you may be one of the few to hear a live event simultaneously captured to DMM and lacquer. Nice for you
 
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I have, and have found the direct to disc process to be the truest of all currently available formats.

Direct metal masters are more comparible to carefully made master tapes.
Is it possible that you're confused? Which is compared to which, direct to disc, direct metal mastering, master tape, regular lacquer cutting? Under what circumstances and how?
 

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Is it possible that you're confused?

No.

Which is compared to which, direct to disc, direct metal mastering, master tape, regular lacquer cutting? Under what circumstances and how?

A live, unamplified performance was the reference which all suitable recording formats were compared against.

DMM and conventional lacquer was never directly compaired in the tests above, which left studio quality analog tape, custom made direct to disc pressings and studio quality DAT as the test sources.
 

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DMM and conventional lacquer was never directly compaired in the tests above,
They're compared many times on various albums from the same source and usually records from lacquer are better. This is how the test should be done and this is what interest us cause we buy records. DMM is a 80's technology when most things went side ways like rock bands with permed hair and makeup, Cd's instead of vinyl records, plastic boomboxes instead of proper equipment, Yamaha DX7 synthesizer on every album instead of proper bass, drum, etc. Like all those premature 80's technology DMM can be perceived as a technological breakthrough but it sounds worse.

P.S. Being an 80's technology Cd hasn't fought with vinyl until recently. There has been a war between them in 2010's not in 80's. The format war in the 80's was between vinyl and cassette. People ditched vinyl for the convenience of cassette in the 80's. How tragic. Later in 2000's cassette lost to Cd and Cd-R or even mp3. When we talk about crap technology in 80's, cassette on it's prime is a better example IMHO.
 
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I invented a replacement for vinyl records. The technical description for this invention is a full spectrum, frequency-modulated optical analog disc format (12" laserdisc).
I did hear about this, or something similar. You must have been very young when you conceived of it, based on your age in bio.

Too bad this did not come to fruition. Could have been amazing ( in theory at least ). Were any prototype discs made?
 

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I did hear about this, or something similar. You must have been very young when you conceived of it, based on your age in bio.

December '74, I was 6 years old. I grew up in the audio and music industries.

Most of my original inventions were theorized between '74 and '78.

Too bad this did not come to fruition. Could have been amazing ( in theory at least ). Were any prototype discs made?

Yes. But unfortunately, no working prototypes.
 

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