it is interesting (weird?) that in the link you provided the photo is sans speaker and next to a description of the "deep cryogenically treated minimalist crossover." It is so minimalist, that it isn't even visible? THAT is impressive.
I'm just joking, but what kind of audiophile listens to music while both talking on the cell and reading? For the negative effects of cell phones (just their presence in the room), see other threads on WBF.
it is interesting (weird?) that in the link you provided the photo is sans speaker and next to a description of the "deep cryogenically treated minimalist crossover." It is so minimalist, that it isn't even visible? THAT is impressive.
I'm just joking, but what kind of audiophile listens to music while both talking on the cell and reading? For the negative effects of cell phones (just their presence in the room), see other threads on WBF.
It might have been nicer to show him playing backgammon. I think the idea here is that audio can be a part of life, well integrated into the nicest domestic settings. Speakers can look like furniture, and one does not need to be alone in a dedicated room. And that the woman in one's life may enjoy it too. Reading from actual paper is part of the aesthetic too. And yes, this is contemporary but has a timeless look to it.
It might have been nicer to show him playing backgammon. I think the idea here is that audio can be a part of life, well integrated into the nicest domestic settings. Speakers can look like furniture, and one does not need to be alone in a dedicated room. And that the woman in one's life may enjoy it too. Reading from actual paper is part of the aesthetic too. And yes, this is contemporary but has a timeless look to it.
Completely agree. I like a listening room that is multi-purpose and relaxing. While windows are not good for acoustics, I like natural light and a view of nature too. Don't want to compromise on that. And the aesthetics of the room count too. Just how I'm wired.
Mr. Master of the Universe still picks up milk on his way home and takes out the garbage when so instructed. As my GP says (from a non-medical perspective), estrogen is the most powerful chemical in the universe.
In fact SME3012-r's are currently cheaper than a few years ago. In my opinion, most of the perceived drive of vintage comes from collectors, who pay a lot for items with original boxes and manual, not from audio enthusiasts wanting to build systems and refurbish old vintage. The frontier between collector/investor is blurred - many people are doing it expecting the items to valuate.
There is also an interest existing since long in the DIY audio community on these items - they love to renovate this items for their intrinsic quality and the pleasure of doing it. Currently there is a rising trend in cassette and tape machines refurbishing - I must avoid I spend a lot of time on my Studer A80's.
Again MHO - if you want to have an idea of market value do not look for advertised prices, look for prices of sold items in auctions or private sales - when a commission is paid, we can know the correct value. Advertised prices are, in general, speculative.
A broader perspective perhaps. Polaroid type camera sales are predicted to see a 3.7% annual growth through 2030. My theory viewing the world from far above. Generally speaking, reality sucks. People yearn for the kinder, genteral past. One indicator. Who likes watching "The News" anymore? Owning vintage is one pathway.
Granted, but I don't think the ad targets audiophiles. More likely, they're trying to say that it's not only audiophiles who furnish their living spaces with such equipment: snazzy, trendy, high-flying, Bugatti-driving, super affluent opinion-leading influencers do as well...
I doubt the message got across -- or Tannoy would be a global household name (which it used to be in the UK)
Well, there is a small change from the vintage years. It used to be "behind every great man..." and now it is "to the side of every great man, and slightly off listening axis..." Does this show the growth of audio and its influence on our daily lives?
Well, there is a small change from the vintage years. It used to be "behind every great man..." and now it is "to the side of every great man, and slightly off listening axis..." Does this show the growth of audio and its influence on our daily lives?
I'm into music a lot therefore I have hifi. I can't imagine going a day without hearing at least one classical piece of music. I suppose that's a lifestyle of sorts. Seems that a lot people get into hifi because it's cool or something, especially true of the 1960's- 1970's.
So, in my opinion, that photo does nothing for vintage or current hifi. That photo belongs in GQ or Playboy. That lady in photo has dollar signs in her eyes- that grin gives it away...
my wife prefers to listen in a different room because she likes the presentation (open floor plan). She is a melophile and doesn't care about the niceties of audiophile dogma. I listen in that room too from time to time since it gives me fresh perspective.
Well, if we’re going to be serious, music in our home goes on at 8:30 every morning with the doors open to the sound room. At moderate volume almost the entire house has music in it all day. So yes it’s a nice thing.
In fact SME3012-r's are currently cheaper than a few years ago. In my opinion, most of the perceived drive of vintage comes from collectors, who pay a lot for items with original boxes and manual, not from audio enthusiasts wanting to build systems and refurbish old vintage. The frontier between collector/investor is blurred - many people are doing it expecting the items to valuate.
There is also an interest existing since long in the DIY audio community on these items - they love to renovate this items for their intrinsic quality and the pleasure of doing it. Currently there is a rising trend in cassette and tape machines refurbishing - I must avoid I spend a lot of time on my Studer A80's.
Again MHO - if you want to have an idea of market value do not look for advertised prices, look for prices of sold items in auctions or private sales - when a commission is paid, we can know the correct value. Advertised prices are, in general, speculative.
A friend gave me a very nice vintage cartridge. When I heard how good it is, I bought three more over a three year period. Each year the prices went up and they became harder to find. My data is from actual prices paid. I also paid double for my latest 3012R compared to the first one I bought six years ago.
Some items go up in price over time. There may be a variety of reasons for this, but it doesn’t change the reason that the price increases for someone trying to find it now. Of course, this only applies to the rare and coveted items that people value and seek out. And yes, there are exceptions.
Is the guy holding a phone to his ear?
I guess that by placing the woman in the background the advertisement is trying to tell us that the pleasure of listening is greater than anything else? She looks bored!
So, in my opinion, that photo does nothing for vintage or current hifi. That photo belongs in GQ or Playboy. That lady in photo has dollar signs in her eyes- that grin gives it away...
That is right. This image does belong in Playboy or GQ or the Rob report. Those publications have male readers looking for ideas about style and how to live. Well the Playboy of old from what I remember from the 70s. This is about aspiration and lifestyle. The target audience is greater than merely audio files.
Here is another British loudspeaker from the 50s in the living room. Music listening as part of daily life.
The prices you paid are just your own private deals - I will not ask you to disclose prices. I report on public data - I bought three SME 3012R from eBay and audiomarkt when I got the EMT927 in 2018 and I know how hard they were to sell and what I lost in the deal. Anyone can see the currently advertised prices.
Some items go up in price over time. There may be a variety of reasons for this, but it doesn’t change the reason that the price increases for someone trying to find it now. Of course, this only applies to the rare and coveted items that people value and seek out. And yes, there are exceptions.
Yes, IMO the interesting thing is nominating the coveted items and with specific knowledge them debating and finding why they are now so expensive. I can't see why Nakamichi Dragon's really sell for over 3000 euros and some people pay the same for a refurbished Revox PR99.
I'm into music a lot therefore I have hifi. I can't imagine going a day without hearing at least one classical piece of music. I suppose that's a lifestyle of sorts. Seems that a lot people get into hifi because it's cool or something, especially true of the 1960's- 1970's.
So, in my opinion, that photo does nothing for vintage or current hifi. That photo belongs in GQ or Playboy. That lady in photo has dollar signs in her eyes- that grin gives it away...
In fact the picture came from a Tannoy brochure. The only reason it can be associated to vintage is because the original Westminster is an homage to a Tannoy vintage speaker using the Dual Concentric concept that played in the The House of Commons in Westminster. For a quick read, those interested can read it at https://www.audioaffair.co.uk/blog/96-years-of-the-tannoy-legacy/
