Upgrade stand mount from Heritage Specials

[andyd]

I am looking at a speaker upgrade for my second system. It's set up in a 175 sq ft (16 sq m) room in a condo. Current speakers are Dynaudio Heritage Special, which have some attributes I really really like. The tweeters are super smooth which is great for the small space, the mids are silky with a hint of warmth, and they project a wide and deep soundstage. They are also incredibly fast in the low end, with detail and texture that I have rarely heard other speakers accomplish. The reason I am looking for an upgrade is I would like slightly more low end extension, but I do not want to add subs and I would like to maintain most of the attributes of the Heritage Specials if possible. Any ideas on models I should be looking at would be very welcome. My research has me learning towards theTAD ME1s, but I am worried those beryllium tweeters will pierce my ears.

 

[Republicoftexas69]

Sonner Audio Legato Unm. https://sonneraudio.com/audio/legato-series/

 

[andyd]

I’ll check these out, they were not on my list. My electronics are pretty revealing, I wonder if the Allegro line would be more appropriate. Not sure any of those will dig lower than the Heritage Specials though.

 

[Republicoftexas69]

I’ll check these out, they were not on my list. My electronics are pretty revealing, I wonder if the Allegro line would be more appropriate. Not sure any of those will dig lower than the Heritage Specials though.

Good luck…

 

[defride]

I am looking at a speaker upgrade for my second system. It's set up in a 175 sq ft (16 sq m) room in a condo. Current speakers are Dynaudio Heritage Special, which have some attributes I really really like. The tweeters are super smooth which is great for the small space, the mids are silky with a hint of warmth, and they project a wide and deep soundstage. They are also incredibly fast in the low end, with detail and texture that I have rarely heard other speakers accomplish. The reason I am looking for an upgrade is I would like slightly more low end extension, but I do not want to add subs and I would like to maintain most of the attributes of the Heritage Specials if possible. Any ideas on models I should be looking at would be very welcome. My research has me learning towards theTAD ME1s, but I am worried those beryllium tweeters will pierce my ears.

Based on the attributes you've described, I'd suggest taking a look at Raidho C or D standmounts. While I can't say I've heard a very convincing Raidho floorstander the standmounts can be exceptional offering surprisingly big, articulate bass. They'd certainly take what you like of the Heritage and deliver more of everything if the rest of the system is up to the task.

 

[cyclopse]

Why not stay with Dynaudio and consider the Confidence 20? Same tweeter I believe the Esotar3.

 

[andyd]

Why not stay with Dynaudio and consider the Confidence 20? Same tweeter I believe the Esotar3.

I’ve read conflicting opinions about the C20, some claim it’s not as good as the Heritage in some areas.

 

[Republicoftexas69]

Well hard to help someone who has not listed what their system consists of other than his speakers. I am moving on.

 

[andyd]

I agree system synergy is important, I should have included those details at the top. My system is a full Naim 300 series: 2xNAP350 mono blocks and NAC332 preamp. My digital front end is currently a Tambaqui. Transparent reference interconnects and Superlumina speaker cables.

 

[Republicoftexas69]

I agree system synergy is important, I should have included those details at the top. My system is a full Naim 300 series: 2xNAP350 mono blocks and NAC332 preamp. My digital front end is currently a Tambaqui. Transparent reference interconnects and Superlumina speaker cables.

Naim and Focal seem to pair well. Not my thing, Focal that is. Best find a dealer that you can get some in home auditions with. As I stated I love Sonner and they are often overlooked. I have them parried in 2 systems Tubes X200 and SS GaN (Gold Note PA-10's Mono Blocks with SPL Elector LossLess Echos End REF DAC) and they are amazing.

 

[defride]

I agree system synergy is important, I should have included those details at the top. My system is a full Naim 300 series: 2xNAP350 mono blocks and NAC332 preamp. My digital front end is currently a Tambaqui. Transparent reference interconnects and Superlumina speaker cables.

I'd doubt Raidho would pair well with Naim, as others have suggested further up the Dyn range is likely a good option. I know of some who've been happy with Totem speakers on Naim systems, worth investigating

 

[andyd]

Maybe one thing to clarify here, the Naim stack is the current totl New Classic range, which is a departure from older Naim sound and more in line with modern offerings from competing brands. Those have been out for maybe less than 2 years now and there’s reports that speaker pairing is not as challenging as with older generations.

 

[Republicoftexas69]

You may have to move away from standmounts. Or look at 2 ways with a better cabinet design (sonner, Sf, FS)

The reason I am looking for an upgrade is I would like slightly more low end extension, but I do not want to add subs and I would like to maintain most of the attributes of the Heritage Specials if possible. Any ideas on models I should be looking at would be very welcome. My research has me learning towards theTAD ME1s, but I am worried those beryllium tweeters will pierce my ears.

 

[Republicoftexas69]

Maybe one thing to clarify here, the Naim stack is the current totl New Classic range, which is a departure from older Naim sound and more in line with modern offerings from competing brands. Those have been out for maybe less than 2 years now and there’s reports that speaker pairing is not as challenging as with older generations.

Give this a read. https://pt.audio/2020/12/18/sonner-audio-legato-unum-loudspeaker-review/

 

[gestalt]

Check out the Wolf von Langa SERENDIPITY. $9,995 with the internal crossover, $13,495 with the external crossover (heads up I'm the North American importer.) They'll be at Capital Audiofest next week in room 653.

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Review: https://wvl.one/berichte/wvl_fidelity_66_Serendipity_en.pdf
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[andyd]

Give this a read. https://pt.audio/2020/12/18/sonner-audio-legato-unum-loudspeaker-review/

Thanks, I did! SuperNait3 has the old classic Naim sound and a different sound signature from my current setup (I used to own one). However I will certainly be adding the Sonners to my audition list, they also look really nice.

 

[Republicoftexas69]

Thanks, I did! SuperNait3 has the old classic Naim sound and a different sound signature from my current setup (I used to own one). However I will certainly be adding the Sonners to my audition list, they also look really nice.

Cheers.

 

[dan31]

I still use a pair of Dynaudio Special Twenty Five's. Consider staying with what you have. Its not broken, you are just curious. Buy more music and reconsider a sub (swarm) if you really want low end. Its not more bass or better bass necessarily. You just need to enjoy it without being distracted by BASS.

Then again its your money. Maybe JBL 4367, its different and equally enjoyable.

 

[andyd]

I think the 4367s may be too big for my space. I would like to avoid a sub because I have no good way of correcting delays for the front speakers and I am sensitive to phase differences.

 

[dan31]

I think the 4367s may be too big for my space. I would like to avoid a sub because I have no good way of correcting delays for the front speakers and I am sensitive to phase differences.

Hopefully you get a chance to demo at home. I went through several increasing upgrades only to find out what I had many upgrades before was just fine.