Videos of Acoustically-Coupled Audio Recordings

Maybe your ears are in unnatural hearing mode due to listening your system. Compare both the original and zzxzzy recordings. They are same sounds except zzxzzy's has some room acoustic sound.

My hat's off to him. I repeat said "hello" with zzxzzy's sounds, and I hear perfect natural sounds just like the original music. This is the best live recording in the world.

The first YouTube video you include in the above post is not a system video it is a vinyl rip (mono by the way), and it sounds very good, much better than the second video, which is a recording of speakers. My comments refer to that second video, and the difference between the two is obvious (hence my comments on the second).

With a phone recording of a speaker, you lose finesse and resolution, and perhaps the frequency response is also affected (microphone). In this case, it sounds pretty clear to me, however, that the system being recorded is coloured in some way. Vinyl has nothing to do with it. I bet the same issues could be heard with a digital source on that system.
 
Maybe your ears are in unnatural hearing mode due to listening your system. Compare both the original and zzxzzy recordings. They are same sounds except zzxzzy's has some room acoustic sound.

My hat's off to zzxzzy. I repeat said "hello" with zzxzzy's sounds, and I hear perfect natural sounds just like the original music. This is the best live recording in the world.

Also, I don't quite understand your "hello" trick. Can you elaborate?
 
Maybe your ears are in unnatural hearing mode due to listening your system. Compare both the original and zzxzzy recordings. They are same sounds except zzxzzy's has some room acoustic sound.

My hat's off to zzxzzy. I repeat said "hello" with zzxzzy's sounds, and I hear perfect natural sounds just like the original music. This is the best live recording in the world.
I prefer the zzxxxy recording. To my ears, timbre is accurate (not nasal), very clean. Maybe it could use more bass foundation but I think it communicates a lively recording. The mono recording sounds congested and distorted by comparison.
 
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I prefer the zzxxxy recording. To my ears, timbre is accurate (not nasal), very clean. Maybe it could use more bass foundation but I think it communicates a lively recording. The mono recording sounds congested and distorted by comparison.

I guess we focus on different aspects.
Listening to it again, and to summarize,I would say the horns sound a little metallic on that zzxxxy recording and it bothers me.
 
Carlos, thanks for posting these two "remastered" versions. While I only have very modest speakers, and the tracks are not volume level matched to the YouTube clip I posted,
I do not find either of them to be an improvement.

Enjoy your systems and remastering methods!
Agreed, however I think the problem lies with the Tidal version he is using. The Qobuz 24/88 of Hilary Hahn/Bach sounds much better.
 
Also, I don't quite understand your "hello" trick. Can you elaborate?
I figure out why most people (non-audiophiles) don't like the hi-fi audio sound. There are natural sounds (human voice, dog barking, baby crying, water flowing, etc.) and unnatural sounds. Human can't hear a natural and unnatural sounds together simultaneously. If they are presented at the same time, the human ears must choose one of them. Audiophiles can switch back and forth (extremely fast) between natural and unnatural sounds due to years of practice with their audio systems. However, most people (non-audiophiles) can't switch back and forth between 2 sounds.

In below video, if I didn't say "hello", you could hear both (L & R) speakers fine with automatic audiophile's ear adjustment (listen beginning 1~6 seconds of videos). But saying "hello" (natural sound) holds our ears to stay in a natural sound mode. And you are hearing what non-audiophiles are hearing.

The both speakers in below videos were same sounding speakers. The right speaker is converted to a natural sound speaker by me. The left speaker is untouched. Almost all speakers (include $million speakers) in the world sound like the left speaker.
 
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Agreed, however I think the problem lies with the Tidal version he is using. The Qobuz 24/88 of Hilary Hahn/Bach sounds much better.
I figure out why wives and women don't like the hi-fi audio sound. There are natural sounds (human voice, dog barking, baby crying, water flowing, etc.) and unnatural sounds. Human can't hear a natural and unnatural sounds together. If they are presented at the same time, the human must choose one of them. Almost men (and audiophiles) can switch back and forth (extremely fast) between natural and unnatural sounds. However, almost women (non-audiophile) can't switch back and forth between 2 sounds.

In below video, If I didn't say "hello", our ears could adjust to the given speaker's sound and we could hear both speakers fine. But saying "hello" (natural sound) holds our ears to stay in a natural sound mode without adjustment. So, below video sounds are the true sound. Women ears are always in the natural sound mode and they hear just like a microphone in below videos.

The speakers in below videos were same sounding speakers. The right speaker is converted to a natural sound speaker by me. Almost all speakers in the world sound like the left speaker. These speakers sound rough and not as refine as hi-end, but points here is about the natural sound.

Thanks. We hear "non recorded" sounds all the time: human voices, cars, wind, animals, and musical instruments at home or in the streets or concert halls. They are embedded in our brains, and this is why we can always recognize the difference between recorded and non recorded sounds:
- a person speaking in another room versus a person's voice reproduced on a speaker in another room
- etc...

I am not sure we need to be reminded of these sounds when listening to our systems. Even someone who has never heard a given instrument will probably tell which version of a recording sounds more natural if it offers a more accurate and complete reproduction of the instruments' sound spectrum.

We are not computers, and each and everyone of us is unique, with unique experiences and sensitivities

When I listen to video recordings, on headphones, I simply see if I can immerse myself in the sound or not. If not, I try to understand why, and then point out these aspects. You can choose to dismiss my comments, that's not a problem (for me).

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I figure out why wives and women don't like the hi-fi audio sound. There are natural sounds (human voice, dog barking, baby crying, water flowing, etc.) and unnatural sounds. Human can't hear a natural and unnatural sounds together. If they are presented at the same time, the human must choose one of them. Almost men (and audiophiles) can switch back and forth (extremely fast) between natural and unnatural sounds. However, almost women (non-audiophile) can't switch back and forth between 2 sounds.

In below video, If I didn't say "hello", our ears could adjust to the given speaker's sound and we could hear both speakers fine. But saying "hello" (natural sound) holds our ears to stay in a natural sound mode without adjustment. So, below video sounds are the true sound. Women ears are always in the natural sound mode and they hear just like a microphone in below videos.

The speakers in below videos were same sounding speakers. The right speaker is converted to a natural sound speaker by me. Almost all speakers in the world sound like the left speaker. These speakers sound rough and not as refine as hi-end, but points here is about the natural sound.

Alex, if I may.

I fail to understand the point of the PA speakers video. They are badly distorted. One of the speakers has a lot less high frequency output, to the point where it doesn't seem to cover the upper harmonics in your voice even, but it's hard to say because of the distortion and clipping. None of them sound better integrated with your voice than the other.

Natural and un-natural sound modes aren't a thing that exist. It is all a continuous expectation bias landscape that everyone navigates.

To speak about this in the least ambiguous manner possible one can use distortion components, profiles and psychoacoustics integration. If a reproduction of a given sound has non-zero and/or psychoacousticaly un-masked distortion components then it won't fool your ear, you'll know something is off. If a reproduction of a given sound as either true zero distortion or that is effectively masked, you can't tell the difference from the original source (never fully happened in the history of hifi, just so we get this out of the way). That is the naïve definition of distortion. Most audiophiles have had the experience that certain systems allow people to have conversations in the room even when the thing is playing at high volume, effortlessly. This can only be explained in terms of distortion, psychoacoustics and expectations, natural/unnatural is like trying to describe a large gothic cathedral with just one adjective. You can do it, but it means very little to nothing in such a broad world. Furthermore, you seem focused on good reproduction of the voice register. What about a double bass? How natural do you think these speakers are for me if my focus if to reproduce an extended B double bass? Because if they aren't, how can they be natural at all? This is one of the reasons this descriptor, in you context, has little value. Either you become more precise in your description of broad in your effort.

Also, no need to say you found out why wives and women don't like hifi. It is a poor taste generalization, obviously not true and, well, in this context, borderline misogynistic. You could say, for example, that people with little purposeful exposure to hifi, and hence no adjusted expectations and concessions, have a different response to certain aspects of sound reproduction. No matter if they are man, women or dolphins.

I understand English isn't your first language, so I recommend taking it easy.
 
as these youtube videos don't really sound like studio recordings and I can't play the youtube through my system...I cannot directly compare.
Yeah there will be no direct comparison. I was struck by how realistic this sounds. If violin sounded this good via a system video, it would be a helluva system.
 
Yeah there will be no direct comparison. I was struck by how realistic this sounds. If violin sounded this good via a system video, it would be a helluva system.

To compare, you would also have to use a similar quality microphone than the one used in the video. The recording was most certainly not done with a phone.
 
Yeah there will be no direct comparison. I was struck by how realistic this sounds. If violin sounded this good via a system video, it would be a helluva system.
I used to record my ex this way in our apartment. I had some good mics then as well as a nice R2R tape deck. I might be able to take digital out of my TV and run it through my system to get this...if I can maybe I will record it....but it will for now have to be with my phone.
 
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I agree 100% with Ron.
There are too many variables to make videos a valid comparison tool, and when you add them all up, they sort of defeat the purpose of a high-end audio system. We'll still have to rely on the good ol' written word, IMHO.
Now, using a professional ADC (not a crummy one built into a phone) to convert analog to digital, and post the resulting files, for comparisons, like Fremer does, is a whole different ball game. There's no microphone or acoustics involved. The only factor affecting performance is the ADC, and that'll stay exactly the same for all the files involved in the comparison. You're really hearing system + ADC, instead of system + room acoustics + listening position + microphone + ADC... And that's considering you're playing the files/videos on a high-end system, which is not always the case...

This is what I have been saying here for a while. Do a good live to 2 track hires recording and post it.
 
I used to record my ex this way in our apartment. I had some good mics then as well as a nice R2R tape deck. I might be able to take digital out of my TV and run it through my system to get this...if I can maybe I will record it....but it will for now have to be with my phone.
It's such a shame your Zoom mic conked out. Btw Chasing the Dragon records used the Zoom F8 to record their latest release. Zoom recorders with similar specs can be had pretty cheap.

 
Try this one, live performance of her playing Mozart for reference below:
I can't download the video from Vimeo. I downloaded a same video from YT as usual. My recording sounds leaner than the YT original video. But I am musically very satisfied with my recording.
 
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I can't download the video from Vimeo. I downloaded a same video from YT as usual. My recording sounds leaner than the YT original video. But I am musically very satisfied with my recording.
Just checking, are you recording the video playback or the streaming playback?
 
Just checking, are you recording the video playback or the streaming playback?
I've downloaded from YT to my computer HDD, copied the music into an USB memory stick, played on my audio system, and recorded above video.
 

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