Videos of Acoustically-Coupled Audio Recordings

[DasguteOhr]

Way better ways to test female vocals, classical or otherwise

opera arias are difficult for me to digest. it would go into my psyche after the third try. i always like to take eva cassidy-song bird very high voice dynamics very easy to recognize whether devices or loudspeakers can reproduce something like that cleanly. without exaggerating sibelates and getting jishy.for me a yardstick voice and piano.

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[PeterA]

I find it fascinating how this topic about recordings, which should remain purely technical, from my point of view, seems to become yet again a platform for stereotypical opposition between the good and bad audiophiles.

I agree with this assessment, and if it is not the iPhone recording that explains the issues, then the term "natural sound" hardly applies.

You were telling us about "yet again a platform for stereotypical opposition between the good and bad audiophiles."

Is this about the personalities, or is it about the opinions of those in this discussion? We are sharing our opinions here based on what we hear from shared videos. Those opinions differ. It is part of the pretty panoply in which we live.

 

[Carlos269]

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The large instrument on Ferrucio Spinetti's back is a string bass, sometimes referred to as a double bass. Turn your album over and this picture is on the back cover.

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These are the string instruments most commonly found in an orchestra.
A piano has strings struck by hammers rather than bowed or plucked so it is considered a percussion instrument.

It is very interesting to me that no one has yet picked up or commented on the fact that only my big Wisdom Audio Adrenaline Rush system with the Remastering process managed to reproduce the “heft” of the double-bass instrument. The weight & deep tone of the instrument was only captured in this video:

On all the other videos, posted to this thread of this recording, the double-bass could easily be mistaken, and it obviously has, for a violin or a cello because of the systems’ lack of really deep and full bass reproduction capabilities. I know that some will blame it on and attribute it to the microphone, and the video capture’s, frequency response limitations but it is obviously there in the above video and I can assure you that the tone & deep and full character of the double-bass is loud and clear in the room.

 

[andromedaaudio]

Okay lets do some non audiophile " good music "

Joe bonamassa s version of ZZ top JUST GOT PAID .

 

[hopkins]

You were telling us about "yet again a platform for stereotypical opposition between the good and bad audiophiles."

Is this about the personalities, or is it about the opinions of those in this discussion? We are sharing our opinions here based on what we hear from shared videos. Those opinions differ. It is part of the pretty panoply in which we live.

It is certainly not about personalities. I'll elaborate later, for now, some recordings of this annoying song...
My system is a work in progress, I have my own thoughts on its limitations, and all constructive criticism is welcome! Fire away, but remember, we are all "audiophiles"!

First video is taken from my listening position with my Tascam DR-100 MKIII recorder and Superlux S502 microphones.

Second video is taken with the microphones placed 1.2m closer to the speakers, and the speakers toed-in slightly more so the microphone diaphragms are in the speaker axis. Since the mics are closer, I reduced the volume by 3db but made no attempt to volume match the two recordings.

Are the use of better microphones of any interest here ? I think so - the frequency response of the microphones don't alter as much the sound. My phone's build-in microphones are terrible and I see no point in making a comparison video with those, you can just take my word for it. I don't have an iPhone! With all these microphones, however, the bass is probably rolled-off.

Does the change in the microphone placement have any effect ? I think so too, but that will depend on the microphone used, the way the speaker interacts with the room, and the way the listening position is "acoustically" optimized or not.

As you can see in the link below, these Superlux microphones are angled at 110 degrees, and from the listening position they are not facing the speakers. I am going to assume that the way they interact with the room is different to our ears (and that is the case with ALL microphones) - which setup is more representative of the listening experience ? I don't know... There are other variables at play, so there are probably some pros and cons to each setup.

Superlux S502

Micros à condensateur appairés Couple ORTF, Capsules appairées de directivité cardioïde, Angle 110º, Réponse en fréquence: 40 Hz - 20 kHz, SPL max: 135 dB, Nécessite une alimentation Phantom, Connectique XLR 5 broches, Câble XLR 5 broches vers 2...

www.thomann.de

 

[hopkins]

Okay lets do some non audiophile " good music "

Joe bonamassa s version of ZZ top JUST GOT PAID .

Sorry...

 

[Argonaut]

Perh

It is very interesting to me that no one has yet picked up or commented on the fact that only my big Wisdom Audio Adrenaline Rush system with the Remastering process managed to reproduce the “heft” of the double-bass instrument. The weight & deep tone of the instrument was only captured in this video:

On all the other videos, posted to this thread of this recording, the double-bass could easily be mistaken, and it obviously has, for a violin or a cello because of the systems’ lack of really deep and full bass reproduction capabilities. I know that some will blame it on and attribute it to the microphone, and the video capture’s, frequency response limitations but it is obviously there in the above video and I can assure you that the tone & deep and full character of the double-bass is loud and clear in the room.

Perhaps due to the fact that this video recording is appallingly poor quality … I can only hope that it sounds considerably better in the room .

 

[wil]

Opinion from the Peanut Gallery:

First, If the double bass is mistaken for a cello (or violin!!) in any of these videos............. I'll just leave it at that!

The original recording of YouTube is, big surprise, by far the best.

I think Ron's most recent is very good. Balanced, good clarity and minimal Room.

Carlos's DHT is also very good.

The Tang speakers at DDK's sounds murky by comparison and room reverb is terrible! I also suspect the double bass presents itself as 5 feet wide and 10' tall.

Carlos's WAAR is also murky like it's been covered by a wet blanket. The strings on the bass are lacking texture and bite.

YMMV

Caveat, I'm listening through MacBook and EarPods.

 

[morricab]

It is very interesting to me that no one has yet picked up or commented on the fact that only my big Wisdom Audio Adrenaline Rush system with the Remastering process managed to reproduce the “heft” of the double-bass instrument. The weight & deep tone of the instrument was only captured in this video:

On all the other videos, posted to this thread of this recording, the double-bass could easily be mistaken, and it obviously has, for a violin or a cello because of the systems’ lack of really deep and full bass reproduction capabilities. I know that some will blame it on and attribute it to the microphone, and the video capture’s, frequency response limitations but it is obviously there in the above video and I can assure you that the tone & deep and full character of the double-bass is loud and clear in the room.

A cello perhaps…a violin?? Nah…

 

[wil]

Okay lets do some non audiophile " good music "

Joe bonamassa s version of ZZ top JUST GOT PAID .

ZZTop would be nice.
But please, please..... not "Witchy Woman." Or anything else from the Eagles.

 

[Carlos269]

Perh

Perhaps due to the fact that this audi video recording is appallingly poor quality … I can only hope that it sounds considerably better in the room .

You are funny guy. Let’s hear the video of your system playing the track, so that we all can hear how lovely and prodigious your system sounds. It is easy to coward and throw stones from behind a keyboard. Let’s see how courageous you are by submitting the video of your system. Are we going to get an excuse of why you can not do that. We are all waiting……….

Carlos's WAAR is also murky like it's been covered by a wet blanket. The strings on the bass are lacking texture and bite.

Because of the dynamic swings with this system, I recorded it in low gain to avoid overloading the microphone as that would have caused clipping and forced me to re-record it, which I did not want to do. So instead I took a very conservative approach and recorded it with reduced gain. All you have to do is turn the volume up on your MacBook and EarPods to hear the texture and bite. If I feel like it, I may re-record this during one of my listening sessions this week as I was too conservative with this recording and still had plenty of headroom left before overdriving the microphone. But it is there, you just need to increase the volume on this one.

 

[hopkins]

Because of the dynamic swings with this system, I recorded it in low gain to avoid overloading the microphone as that would have caused clipping and forced me to re-record it, which I did not want to do. So instead I took a very conservative approach and recorded it with reduced gain. All you have to do is turn the volume up on your MacBook and EarPods to hear the texture and bite. If I feel like it, I may re-record this during one of my listening sessions this week as I was too conservative with this recording and still had plenty of headroom left before overdoing the microphone. But it is there you just need to increase the volume on this one.

Even with the volume up I much prefer your other video (DHT) which has a very pleasant feel to it, vocals are very smooth, and the bass does not overshadow it as with your other video. Very nice. A better mic would probably make these qualities even more obvious.

 

[Carlos269]

Even with the volume up I much prefer your other video (DHT) which has a very pleasant feel to it, vocals are very smooth, and the bass does not overshadow it as with your other video. Very nice. A better mic would probably make these qualities even more obvious.

That’s good feedback. I think everyone would agree that the video of one of my DHT/SET/HORN systems that I posted sounds better when comparing videos. In the room the big system, specifically now with the Remastering process added, has a certain charm that is very pleasing, like being behind the wheel of a GT2-RS, while the DHT/SET/HORN is more of a GT3-RS, for the purists.

l really want to hear Argonaut’s system video but wait, it appears that he has ducked down and headed for the exits. Hopefully he is making the video and will share it with us soon.

 

[Argonaut]

You are funny guy. Let’s hear the video of your system playing the track, so that we all can hear how lovely and prodigious your system sounds.

Oh Dear … So You are not interested in anything other than plaudits for your video and in true Pavlovian Dog styleee resort to the “Do One Betterer “ defence mechanism, your audio vid is so obviously poor I can only assume that something is amiss with the recording rather than your system !

 

[Carlos269]

Oh Dear … So You are not interested in anything other than plaudits for your video and in true Pavlovian Dog styleee resort to the “Do One Betterer “ defence mechanism, your audio vid is so obviously poor I can only assume that something is amiss with the recording rather than your system !

Post your video. That is all that you have to do. Let’s hear it.

 

[andromedaaudio]

l really want to hear Argonaut’s system video but wait, it appears that he has ducked down and headed for the exits. Hopefully he is making the video and will share it with us soon.

Some of the biggest " experts " on WBF just continue to fail to deliver on that part.

 

[Argonaut]

It is easy to coward and throw stones from behind a keyboard. Let’s see how courageous you are by submitting the video of your system. Are we going to get an excuse of why you can not do that. We are all waiting……

No …No excuses … I simply do not give a shit what you might think based upon your stellar performance thus far

 

[Argonaut]

It is very interesting to me that no one has yet picked up or commented on the fact that only my big Wisdom Audio Adrenaline Rush system with the Remastering process managed to reproduce the “heft” of the double-bass instrument. The weight & deep tone of the instrument was only captured in this video:

You post your precious audio vid up on an open forum presumably to hear only positive feedback upon it , and I applaud you for it , however to behave like a smacked child when someone doesn’t get the message and sign up to your program !!!

 

[Carlos269]

You post your precious audio vid up on an open forum presumably to hear only positive feedback upon it , and I applaud you for it , however to behave like a smacked child when someone doesn’t get the message !!!

Are we to assume that you will not be posting a video of your system?

The videos I posted are here and everyone can think what they please. Your comments were so strong, that now I am curious to hear what you are working with.

 

[andromedaaudio]

Are we to assume that you will not be posting a video of your system?

The videos I posted are here and everyone can think what they please. Your comments were so strong, that now I am curious to hear what you are working with.

But that’s not going to happen…….you know why? Be cause you are a coward!

May be he can provide a picture of his system , that would at least be something