Visit to Clarisys Auditoriums + CH Precision System in Spokane, Washington

[Kingrex]

Thanks Ron

 

[cjfrbw]

"Room filling", which is why I also like planars. It's like every air molecule in the room is being deployed, rather than fired at you ballistically from a radiating cone.

I think a classical music lover should go straight to horns, but for the wider musical palettes, dipole planars are great. Plus, I don't know if it's a good idea chronically to listen at the intensities and volumes that horns demand. Need to keep some of the hearing for the twilight.

During the 'loud' passages (I presume from the vid) I couldn't see any movement of the ribbons, which means they are unstressed with lots of reserve.

 

[Doc76]

Excellent interview. I still sense a lack of bass with Clarisys.

 

[Bbock]

Excellent interview. I still sense a lack of bass with Clarisys.

That is just room dependent. Positioning, like with all planers is important. I can tell you in my listening room, I can feel the impact and hear 26hz— and I’ve got the one-sized-down from the Auditorium version.

I can move them in my room and lose the bass at my listening position.

Mine are spec’d at -3db at 25. I have no reason to doubt that.

 

[Doc76]

That is just room dependent. Positioning, like with all planers is important. I can tell you in my listening room, I can feel the impact and hear 26hz— and I’ve got the one-sized-down from the Auditorium version.

I can move them in my room and lose the bass at my listening position.

Mine are spec’d at -3db at 25. I have no reason to doubt that.

It’s very true that every speaker must be set up correctly for one to get the best sound. That’s a given. However, can the Clarisys be set up correctly in every room? Your room and equipment is most likely different than what I heard them on. I’ve heard other speakers that I’ve enjoyed more. I’ll trek towards them.

 

[cjfrbw]

The vid did sound a bit 'solid state' to me, with all due respect to the limitations of the media and intervening transmitters.

I, of course, would probably prefer a tube somewhere there before the amps.

 

[Ron Resnick]

Excellent interview. I still sense a lack of bass with Clarisys.

Thank you.

Then that suggests that videos don't accomplish what their adherents claim for them.

Lack of bass is an incorrect conclusion judged against what one hears in person. Go listen to them in person.

 

[Al M.]

The vid did sound a bit 'solid state' to me, with all due respect to the limitations of the media and intervening transmitters.

Can't judge the sound from a video. You need to hear the system in person.

 

[Folsom]

It’s very true that every speaker must be set up correctly for one to get the best sound. That’s a given. However, can the Clarisys be set up correctly in every room? Your room and equipment is most likely different than what I heard them on. I’ve heard other speakers that I’ve enjoyed more. I’ll trek towards them.

They are dipole so they can park very close to sidewalls, but you need some depth for them.

Excellent interview. I still sense a lack of bass with Clarisys.

Well the ones in that room had too much bass. Now the room has a numerous Avaa PSI's to balance it. I'm not sure about home theater but for music they make literally more than enough.

 

[cjfrbw]

Jason Bloom was fine with placing the higher frequency ribbons on the outside with Apogees. My own experience tends that what you get isn't so much a meaningful widening of soundstage as a bit of richness and (in a good way) darkness. Maybe it's because the bass panel sound hits you first, and the higher frequencies are more turned away from beaming, I dunno.

I'm sure your mileage will vary depending on particular rooms etc.

 

[Ron Resnick]

I’ve got the one-sized-down from the Auditorium version.

How do you like the Hegel amplifiers on them?

Have you been tempted to try VAC amplifiers?

 

[Golum]

However, can the Clarisys be set up correctly in every room?

Not really sure why this question is "Clarysis" dependent? It can be implied to literally every speaker and manufacturer and their correlation with the room they are being or indented to be used in.

 

[Folsom]

Not really sure why this question is "Clarysis" dependent? It can be implied to literally every speaker and manufacturer and their correlation with the room they are being or indented to be used in.

It is really just dipole vs not dipole in this case, however one caveat being rooms too small will suffer too much bass from the Auditoriums. The bass problem would be true with any other speaker that is not trying to have a slope to match room gain, under the assumption that if you are buying a speaker that big, that nice, and that expensive you are not putting it in a coat closet.

 

[christensenleif@msn.com]

"Room filling", which is why I also like planars. It's like every air molecule in the room is being deployed, rather than fired at you ballistically from a radiating cone.

I think a classical music lover should go straight to horns, but for the wider musical palettes, dipole planars are great. Plus, I don't know if it's a good idea chronically to listen at the intensities and volumes that horns demand. Need to keep some of the hearing for the twilight.

During the 'loud' passages (I presume from the vid) I couldn't see any movement of the ribbons, which means they are unstressed with lots of reserve.

this is not my experience
I think a fullrange, high sensitivity horn system excels at giving fullbodied dynamic sound, even at low levels
even at low volumes you can feel the capacity and headroom present
no need to press the cow through the meatgrinder to get a squeel out in the other end.....
apart from that, I thoroughly enjoyed my Apogee Diva driven by 4 x Rowland Research Model 7s through an active DAX filter, for many years

nice report Ron....

 

[Audiohertz2]

Brass, piano, violin, cello, tympani, and drums.

With or without shout ...

 

[Audiohertz2]

Excellent interview. I still sense a lack of bass with Clarisys.

Hello ,

Where did you hear them , big room , small room and with SS or Toobs ..?

 

[bonzo75]

I think a classical music lover should go straight to horns, but for the wider musical palettes, dipole planars are great. Plus, I don't know if it's a good idea chronically to listen at the intensities and volumes that horns demand. Need to keep some of the hearing for the twilight.

Also jazz and rock, albeit dual FLH for rock.

And horns are by far the best speakers at low volumes, because of the integration and straight flat impedance allows you to uniformly drive all frequencies equally well, not having to adjust volume for one driver.

And if you and Ron wanted to keep this thread devoted to Clarisys and panels, you should not have mentioned nukes in a snowball match report

 

[spiritofmusic]

Also jazz and rock, albeit dual FLH for rock.

And horns are by far the best speakers at low volumes, because of the integration and straight flat impedance allows you to uniformly drive all frequencies equally well, not having to adjust volume for one driver.

And if you and Ron wanted to keep this thread devoted to Clarisys and panels, you should not have mentioned nukes in a snowball match report

Is that last comment a lift from The Untouchables?

 

[bonzo75]

Is that last comment a lift from The Untouchables?

Yes but not with a Scottish accent.

 

[KrellFan1]

Please enjoy my interview with Cyrus, a What's Best Forum member in Spokane, WA, who recently installed one of the first pairs of Clarisys Auditorium loudspeakers in the USA, with CH Precision L10 and M10 electronics and Ideon DAC:

I actually watched this excellent interview entirely by chance last night , @Ron Resnick. Congrats on a great review. What a room and what a system! Have you heard ANY system with and without the Ideon Absolute Time? And where in the chain would one deploy it? Would it drop in between the player/streamer and the DAC? I have an Antipodes K41 and K22 and also wonder how much a device like this might improve SQ when Antipodes does such a superb job in re- clocking as it is.