What is the difference between JPMorgan Chase and Organized Crime???

Save it...Zzzzzzzzzzz

But Andre surely you have to admit that the ACA has impacted both patients who want to keep their plans and doctors as well as doctors who are now being impacted financially because their patients are being forced to seek other medical care.

I remember vividly when Obama said what he did so how can it be Zzzzzzzzzz at your end
 
But Andre surely you have to admit that the ACA has impacted both patients who want to keep their plans and doctors as well as doctors who are now being impacted financially because their patients are being forced to seek other medical care.

I remember vividly when Obama said what he did so how can it be Zzzzzzzzzz at your end

Of course there are issues...I don't see the relation to my post about Chase and it's financial crimes.
 
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reminds me of a new term i learned today "affluenza"

its an actual defense used in crime cases: http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/12/12...not-liable-for-deadly-drunk-driving-accident/

"Couch suffers from “affluenza,” according to his lawyers, a term which means that his wealthy parents pretty much let him get away with everything.
The defense saved him from a 20-year sentence; State District Judge Jean Boyd bought it at his sentencing on Tuesday and gave Couch probation instead."


God bless America. And it's lawyers.
 
You have to remember these types of crimes are not just in our times. Financiers, Oligarchs and their politicians,puppets,henchman,murderers,ect,ect have pulled this crap for ever. Just now the bubble has gone on for such a long period. The end result of such a "bezel" short for embezzlement is probably a wholesale change in our way of lives in a negative way. The last great bezel was in the 1920's and the result was the great depression. Such a organised bezel is evil in so many ways......not good.
 
The DRUNK kid Killed 4 pedestrians.

"Couch suffers from “affluenza,” according to his lawyers, a term which means that his wealthy parents pretty much let him get away with everything.
The defense saved him from a 20-year sentence; State District Judge Jean Boyd bought it at his sentencing on Tuesday and gave Couch probation instead."


God bless America. And it's lawyers.

The DRUNK kid Killed 4 pedestrians.
The judge must be rubbing a lot of "affluenza" between his greedy fingers. Meaning the judge who basically gave the drunk kid a total Pass on the crime.

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The DRUNK kid Killed 4 pedestrians.
The judge must be rubbing a lot of "affluenza" between his greedy fingers. Meaning the judge who basically gave the drunk kid a total Pass on the crime.

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Yes, and if he was from the other side of the tracks he would be in the slammer. At least he went before a judge.
Those who perpetrated the financial crimes of 2007 have yet to even stand before a judge, aside from "Fab" Fabio
of Goldman Sachs.
 
The size of the payoffs?
 
Yes, and if he was from the other side of the tracks he would be in the slammer. At least he went before a judge.
Those who perpetrated the financial crimes of 2007 have yet to even stand before a judge, aside from "Fab" Fabio
of Goldman Sachs.

Yes, they usually throw someone in the gladiator ring for the public - e.g. Martha Stewart.

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Yes, they usually throw someone in the gladiator ring for the public - e.g. Martha Stewart.

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Yeh, what a joke. Hedge Fund crooks like Steven Cohen and hundreds of others have been reaping
billions from insider trading for years and they are just starting to enforce the laws against these creeps.
 
fair enough. another answer is that in the world of the ultra rich and powerful personal responsibility is non existent.
Their only responsibility is to ensure that welfare for the rich, both financially and legally, remains in play.
 
The poor don't have any investments, savings or retirements, and their homes have no equity. You could (convincingly) argue the middle class got shafted in the sub-prime crisis through the bailouts, but not "the poor".

i thought we were talking about the now poor....
 
Andre, Andre, Andre...all of those crimes you mention were committed by corporations, not by the poor, innocent CEOs, CFOs, etc. who were merely employees of the guilty corporations. What next? You want to jail bank tellers for JPMorgan's crimes? Here's how it works in America, where the only central ground the center left and center right seem to be able to find is their mutual corporatism: Corporations have the rights of human citizens (just ask the Supremes) and are, in fact, "people" when buying elections (just ask Mitt). But they have none of the responsibilities of people when they've trampled all over the law on their way to nearly wrecking the world economy. I know you can get this. It's abstract. But it just requires suspension of any lingering sense of justice you might have nagging your conscience.

Tim
 

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