What is the difference between JPMorgan Chase and Organized Crime???

We are continually surprised and outraged when, in a system that encourages greed, people are greedy.

There is a distinct difference between greed and breaking the law.

Money laundering is against the law. Doing business with outlawed states is a crime. Deliberately vacating fiduciary duty is a crime.

No where here did anyone say greed is bad. It greases the wheel.
 
Andre, Andre, Andre...all of those crimes you mention were committed by corporations, not by the poor, innocent CEOs, CFOs, etc. who were merely employees of the guilty corporations. What next? You want to jail bank tellers for JPMorgan's crimes? Here's how it works in America, where the only central ground the center left and center right seem to be able to find is their mutual corporatism: Corporations have the rights of human citizens (just ask the Supremes) and are, in fact, "people" when buying elections (just ask Mitt). But they have none of the responsibilities of people when they've trampled all over the law on their way to nearly wrecking the world economy. I know you can get this. It's abstract. But it just requires suspension of any lingering sense of justice you might have nagging your conscience.

Tim

The rule of law is no more? No fiduciary duty? Fraud is legal? There is nothing new under the Sun......

"In 1939 Ferdinand Pecora published a memoir that recounted details of the investigations, Wall Street Under Oath. Pecora wrote: "Bitterly hostile was Wall Street to the enactment of the regulatory legislation." As to disclosure rules, he stated that "Had there been full disclosure of what was being done in furtherance of these schemes, they could not long have survived the fierce light of publicity and criticism. Legal chicanery and pitch darkness were the banker's stoutest allies."

Since that day the Powers hidden in secret have vowed to enforce ultimate control over all that seeks to legitimately govern and enforce the rule of law. They might rule on this plane but not in Paradise.
 
Andre, Andre, Andre...all of those crimes you mention were committed by corporations, not by the poor, innocent CEOs, CFOs, etc. who were merely employees of the guilty corporations. What next? You want to jail bank tellers for JPMorgan's crimes? Here's how it works in America, where the only central ground the center left and center right seem to be able to find is their mutual corporatism: Corporations have the rights of human citizens (just ask the Supremes) and are, in fact, "people" when buying elections (just ask Mitt). But they have none of the responsibilities of people when they've trampled all over the law on their way to nearly wrecking the world economy. I know you can get this. It's abstract. But it just requires suspension of any lingering sense of justice you might have nagging your conscience.

Tim

My bad Tim! How silly of me!!!!;)
 
Boy, I love this thread!!
Looking at the responses, it is TRULY clear to me that those who would like to defend in ANY way the behavior and/or culpability of J Morgan Chase and their ilk are sadly misinformed. Or worse, culpable and/or tolerant of illegal acts.
Since I am unfortunately involved in a professional manner with the unfortunate results of the many acts that Andre has so eloquently described; I would be pleased to "enlighten" anyone who would like to either dispute these acts or
justify them-- in a PM.
 
Boy, I love this thread!!
Looking at the responses, it is TRULY clear to me that those who would like to defend in ANY way the behavior and/or culpability of J Morgan Chase and their ilk are sadly misinformed. Or worse, culpable and/or tolerant of illegal acts.
Since I am unfortunately involved in a professional manner with the unfortunate results of the many acts that Andre has so eloquently described; I would be pleased to "enlighten" anyone who would like to either dispute these acts or
justify them-- in a PM.

I knew you like this thread...!!!!!
 

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