What's Best in Boxing today?
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Highly questionable judging throughout … as usual
From where I was sitting tonight I could not really tell how effective the boxers were, but it was fun anyway.
Though often entertaining, the quality of boxing in this year's Olympics was a little disappointing, at least based on what I saw. It's very different from pro boxing. I was happy to watch last weekends' fight between Crawford and Madrimov (who happens to have a very impressive amateur record, with 352 amateur fights for only 10 pro fights).
Many boxing pundits gave negative comments about Crawford's performance in that fight. I though he was just as impressive as always, against a skilled, tough, but very cautious opponent.
Madrimov did connect with a few straight right hands, but was never really that convincing. Crawford basically controlled the action (and the distance) throughout the fight. He successfully deterred Madrimov from using his jab by countering him very early on (watch the first rounds again...) with some overhand rights. He made him feel his power early with some head and body shots. He was effective with counter punches throughout the fight.
It was not a spectacular shutout, as many would have expected, but Crawford got the job done without getting hurt at any point, and that's what it's all about.
Many boxing pundits gave negative comments about Crawford's performance in that fight. I though he was just as impressive as always, against a skilled, tough, but very cautious opponent.
Madrimov did connect with a few straight right hands, but was never really that convincing. Crawford basically controlled the action (and the distance) throughout the fight. He successfully deterred Madrimov from using his jab by countering him very early on (watch the first rounds again...) with some overhand rights. He made him feel his power early with some head and body shots. He was effective with counter punches throughout the fight.
It was not a spectacular shutout, as many would have expected, but Crawford got the job done without getting hurt at any point, and that's what it's all about.
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In that video above, Bernard Hopkins calls for Crawford to fight Vergil Ortiz next, but that is probably not going to happen. Vergil Ortiz is clearly not at the same level, is not a big draw, and his win this weekend was controversial.
The undercard of that fight saw a very impressive Charles Conwell KO his opponent (Khiary Gray) with a perfect liver shot. Here's the action, and a slow motion replay:
The undercard of that fight saw a very impressive Charles Conwell KO his opponent (Khiary Gray) with a perfect liver shot. Here's the action, and a slow motion replay:
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20 year old Abdullah Mason, mentioned previously in this thread, displayed his impressive skills last night, with a quick stoppage of an opponent that was supposed to be a step up for him... Mason barely broke a sweat.Here's a highlights video of Mason:
Here is a good analysis of the "controversial" October 12th fight between Bivol and Bertebiev:
Watching the fight broadcast live, it is hard to catch all these subtleties.
Watching the fight broadcast live, it is hard to catch all these subtleties.
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Stay tuned for another Abdullah Mason fight on November 8th, on the undercard of a Keyshawn Davis fight:
Abdullah Mason Faces Knockout Artist Yohan Vasquez On November 8th - Boxing News 24
Lightweight prospect Abdullah Mason will face the knockout artist Yohan Vasquez (26-5, 21 KOs) in an eight-round fight on November 8th on the undercard of
www.boxingnews24.com
Boxing in the USA seems to be on the down side.
My dad was a boxer in the marines
He made me box , not pro. Back then golden gloves were big events. Even today they still exist ? One of my son’s boxes. Did golden gloves a few times
and won.
When my twins were old enough I made them both take up karate and judo.
Commitment and discipline I think are needed in the forming process of children. one son still boxes and I love watching it.
don’t know if there is golden gloves where you live. But in 10 or 12 fights there is always a few good ones.
And since tickets are cheap to be close to the ring gives a better feel for massive impact of good solid hits.
My dad was a boxer in the marines
He made me box , not pro. Back then golden gloves were big events. Even today they still exist ? One of my son’s boxes. Did golden gloves a few times
and won.
When my twins were old enough I made them both take up karate and judo.
Commitment and discipline I think are needed in the forming process of children. one son still boxes and I love watching it.
don’t know if there is golden gloves where you live. But in 10 or 12 fights there is always a few good ones.
And since tickets are cheap to be close to the ring gives a better feel for massive impact of good solid hits.
I've been a fan since a very young age, but only took up boxing myself at the age of 39 (I'm now 58)! I do "light sparring", for fun, but get to meet a lot of young amateurs and pros in gyms, and often attend sparring sessions.
Just for fun, here I am (on the right), last weekend... A better opponent could have seen my poor faint for what it was and knocked me out on my way in
I would never step in the ring with skilled amateurs...their speed and power is simply bewildering... Boxing is humbling!
I love the sport. Boxing is indeed on the downside, but fortunately there is still a lot of young talented boxers out there. MMA is much more popular now.
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Tyson is the attraction to me.
Did you watch the Tyson / Roy jones fight ?
What were your thoughts?
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That was a few years ago, an exhibition fight, and I don't think either of them took it seriously, from what I remember. Jones was a diminished fighter even at the end of his (too long) career. Incredible athleticism in his prime - did not have much to rely upon as he got older?
I think they both have what they had left
and it was sad to see how slow Roy had become
as we age body wise our brain does not show us how physical we have changed
we still think we can do much more then we can.
boxing is a tremendous physical sport
runners not in the league
swimming is almost as tough as boxing in some respects. hockey who plays hockey at our age ? I give you credit you look good and must be tough to keep your self this way.
you deserve respect for the effort and achievement.
Regarding judges they do seem to be unfair at times. I can’t say why but some are obviously one sided
Think larry Holmes last fight
On hbo Loved what he said at the end
to me best jab and combo for a heavy weight. what he was missing was the Tyson power on follow up
this is a great thread
please keep posting love life stories like these.
Think larry Holmes last fight
On hbo Loved what he said at the end
to me best jab and combo for a heavy weight. what he was missing was the Tyson power on follow up
this is a great thread
please keep posting love life stories like these.
Speed is what you lose first as you age. Nothing can be done about that.
I enjoy everything about boxing - especially how you completely disconnect from everything else during training - so it's not hard to get motivated to go to the gym. It's also a "social" activity, in a sense.
I assume that at some point (65?) I will probably have to switch to some other form of physical activity - maybe Tai Chi, or ballroom dancing
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Speaking about staying humble in the sport of boxing, Abdullah Mason got knocked out twice by his opponent, only to knock him out 3 times to win the fight in the second round:
Mason's guard was pretty tight, though he does have a tendency to keep his head up maybe a little too high - as pointed out by the commentator (Tim Bradley?).
Still, his opponent, Vasquez, managed to sneak in counter punches. Vasquez actually has an impressive knock-out record.
Mason boxed beautifully. After being down, he did not hesitate to get back into the fight and that shows a lot of confidence and determination. You can also understand from his post-fight interview that this is a guy with a really positive attitude and passion for the sport.
Looking forward to his next fight!
Edit: here is Mason's take on his fight:
www.boxingnews24.com
Mason's guard was pretty tight, though he does have a tendency to keep his head up maybe a little too high - as pointed out by the commentator (Tim Bradley?).
Still, his opponent, Vasquez, managed to sneak in counter punches. Vasquez actually has an impressive knock-out record.
Mason boxed beautifully. After being down, he did not hesitate to get back into the fight and that shows a lot of confidence and determination. You can also understand from his post-fight interview that this is a guy with a really positive attitude and passion for the sport.
Looking forward to his next fight!
Edit: here is Mason's take on his fight:
Abdullah Mason Discusses Mistakes In Vasquez Fight - Boxing News 24
Abdullah Mason (16-0, 14 KOs) had to overcome adversity last Friday night, suffering two first-round knockdowns before coming back to knock out the power
www.boxingnews24.com
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Raymond Ford, already mentioned in this thread, moved up to 130 lbs, and easily beat his opponent, Orlando Gonzalez:
He knocked him down in the second round with a right hook. Had Ford been better at cutting off the ring, he probably could have closed the fight in that round, but it ended going the distance (with a second similar knockdown in the late rounds).
He knocked him down in the second round with a right hook. Had Ford been better at cutting off the ring, he probably could have closed the fight in that round, but it ended going the distance (with a second similar knockdown in the late rounds).
A few days away from the Mike Tyson vs Jake Paul fight, here is a video, published 10 months ago, that answers the question:
Let's see if Mike Tyson can take advantage of any of these flaws.
IS JAKE PAUL A GOOD BOXER?
Let's see if Mike Tyson can take advantage of any of these flaws.
