Which is Better Sound From High Power: Single Tube SET or Parallel Tube SET?
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No, not understood at all. As I said before, Bonzo has no clue. I have heard in total five SET amps, all in people's homes, none at a show.
Of course, if I give specifics Bonzo will say but these are not the right speakers etc., and I don't know nothing etc., etc. etc. That would be a schoolyard-brawl type debate that I have zero interest in. Suffice to say that in all cases the speakers were 100 dB sensitive (with 2 SET amps) or well above (with 3 SET amps).
Al, Would you say those five systems shared certain characteristics that you attribute to the high-efficiency speakers and SET amplifier combination? If so, could you describe it in terms of what you heard and why you think there are other approaches that sound more convincing to you?
I’ve actually owned or had long term loans of probably a dozen of them. My best audio friend now owns the $80k Absolares. Just because I don’t like them doesn’t mean you won’t. Why is audio on WBF so one tracked these days.
you don't need a lot of money to snoop around the set amp life. the audionote kits are good. a couple of 300b tj globshape(500€) driver tubes 150€ and rectifier 5u4g svetlana 30€.for 5k€ new you get a phantastic sound gurantee
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Phil Ressler's (213Cobra) tube amp manufacturer in China makes many varieties of low power tube amps in the $2,000 - $5,000 range.
not unmusical; less musical
It is unsurprising that 100 watts and 350 watts does not maintain the musical purity of 2 watts and 5 watts.
for what speakers? you haven’t had a single speaker that works well on sets. Your friend has Zus, not horns, or any good efficient speakers.
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How do you know? Maybe a particular mastering engineer actually knows what musically convincing audio sounds like, and he intended an SET sound?
clueless, it is amp plus speaker combo, not just amp. Again you seem to be guarding this more than the govt guards the fact that there is no gold in Fort Knox
My comment was not meant to be a statement of SET are untrue and creating sounds. I was trying to make the point that peoples perceptions are such that we all seem to gravitate to a sound we like. And then tell everyone who listens to some other sound that they are enjoying euphonic distortions.
Its also why I said the Dag/Boulder person will go home and prefer their system, but they may wonder why some details are buried or hard to hear.
What did you hear the found music on? Not really clear what you are saying here. On one hand you are saying lots of drive, percussion, inner detail, but then you heard only a lot of Punk, so hard to say inner detail, but had pop and grit and speed.
If the 300b sounded good only on jazz and singer, it is either not a good amp or was used on an umatched speaker.
And you did not like any of these? Neither classical, jazz, nor rock sounded like live? Though with forgot the speakers tough to make a call
i find all the Dagostino wilson magico boulder type systems I heard relatively slower with far less punch and thrust. But that is on matching extremely agile SETs or low watt PPs on efficient speakers where the drivers require very low grip and can move a lot of air with less movement.
Btw, I heard jazdoc's system when I visited Mike end of 2016.
excellent symbiosis with tj 300b. the tj tubes for me the best. ok they don't shine so nice no mesh anode.
A good example of SET and efficient speakers is Jeff’s JBL Hartsfield system in his new room. You have heard that system. I think Keith, Ron and Al have also heard it.
when I was there it had work to be done on crossover and finding the right amp.
there are tons of examples on the SET amp owners thread. The guys who don’t know are welcome to tour and listen to see what they like and don’t. If they don’t have the time or inclination to do it, they shouldn’t type just because they are bored. And while I understand they got ticked off here debating with Brad, it does not mean they go the other extreme and misrepresent.
next we will hear from Al that analog is just coloured and limited dynamic range
The crossover was taken care of in the meantime. Unlike it could before, the little sweet 2W SET amp now could drive the speakers without strain, in fact entirely effortlessly, to loud volume levels. Just amazing. The 8 W SET amp worked great as well, of course.
That's just dumb, Ked. Don't you know I love analog? Have I not said so many times? Yes, there's limited dynamic range on some pressings, but often good vinyl reproduction will blow the roof off the joint dynamically. Especially on jazz. So no, vinyl does not have limited dynamic range compared to digital -- tape doesn't anyway. Of course, by measurements it does, but who cares about those.
Yes, known since long. Electrons in 2 watt and 5 watt amplifiers are educated in schools of nuns, electrons in 100 watt and 350 watt are trained in whorehouses. How could they be pure?
I would love to know where Lamm trained their 32 Watt amplifier electrons, but it is well kept secret.
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Prefer to have my tubes/electrons schooled in a house of whores as they know when and where to play the part. I worked in a Catholic School while attending Norte Dame. While I respect the sisterhood they only know one act.Yes, known since long. Electrons in 2 watt and 5 watt amplifiers are educated in schools of nuns, electrons in 100 watt and 350 watt are trained in whorehouses. How could they be pure?
I would love to know where Lamm trained their 32 Watt amplifier electrons, but it is well kept secret.
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