Who Are Your Favorite DAC Designers?

There are so many great DAC designers, some still among us, and some RIP, so it's hard to choose, but... If I just stop overthinking for a second and review which products brought emotions, music, and started my leg tapping and not just sounds then my top 3 is:
Łukasz from Lampizator, Nicolae from Rockna, Don Moses from Wadia
 
I'd like to recommend the Mojo Audio Mystique dac. My version is the X-24AM. It utilizes the legendary Analog Devices AD1862 R-2R ladder DAC chip. There is a lot that goes into this dac, but I'll let you read up about it on their website.

I believe it flies so far under the radar because it doesn't cost $30K or more and therefore it doesn't catch the eyes of many people. You'd be remiss to not give this piece a serious audition. It truly is an amazing dac.

Best wishes,
Don
 
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@hongkongfoufou Do you like the ML360s more than the DAC in your Esoteric, even if it is still the AKM Chip-DAC and not compareable with actual discrete Esoteric DACs?

And generally: Are the actual Esoteric Grandioso discrete DACs, mono version, clock, this and those, (or just in the big Esoteric DACD players integrated) just nice on the paper and in advertisements, but not really sonically outstanding and musical?
I don’t read so much about them from users.
I like my ML360S. I use Esoteric only as a drive just for CD. The ML360S is better for me than the AKM Chip-DAC.
And few day ago, I have bought a TotalDac CD transport d1-CD...
You can find what I think about this transport here:
 
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Mark Levinson around 2005 produced very good looking products.

The interesting thing about ML NO.32 reference pre is the power supply has an internal ac regenerator (400hz). It seems the ML NO.33 and 33H both use internal ac regenerator before output power stages.

I never like ML sound but I like their look.
Marantz sc7s2 preamplifier is better than the Mark Levinson N32 reference...
 
Interesting thread.

As I'm also looking for a new DAC at the moment, I'm happy to read along here.

I currently have the following devices on my “hotlist”:

- Mola Mola Tambaqui

- T+A DAC 200

- Weiss D501

All three are available in midi format and in silver. However, all three offer many functions that I don't actually need (preamp function, various inputs, etc.)

I actually “only” need a USB input and a fixed-level output in XLR format, ideally with an internal, balanced architecture.

There's a second-hand QB-9 Twenty from Ayre on sale at the moment - in principle, that would be enough for the “requirements”.

Or the “Mystique Y” from Mojo Audio, which @No Regrets recommended, would also fit the bill.

What would be your recommendation to bring digital to a comparable level to analog (which would/should be primary source…)

Fully setup is in the signature - thanks a lot.

atb, Tom
 
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Interesting thread.

As I'm also looking for a new DAC at the moment, I'm happy to read along here.

I currently have the following devices on my “hotlist”:

- Mola Mola Tambaqui

- T+A DAC 200

- Weiss D501

All three are available in midi format and in silver. However, all three offer many functions that I don't actually need (preamp function, various inputs, etc.)

I actually “only” need a USB input and a fixed-level output in XLR format, ideally with an internal, balanced architecture.

There's a second-hand QB-9 Twenty from Ayre on sale at the moment - in principle, that would be enough for the “requirements”.

Or the “Mystique Y” from Mojo Audio, which @No Regrets recommended, would also fit the bill.

What would be your recommendation to bring digital to a comparable level to analog (which would/should be primary source…)

Fully setup is in the signature - thanks a lot.

atb, Tom
Hey Tom,

I really think that you'd like the Mojo Mystique Y. It would be worth your time to give Benjamin a call or email and have a conversation with him. He's easy to talk to and he love's talking about music and gear and the "why" behind how he builds his gear. He's been doing this stuff for a long time and he does make an amazing product. He also gives you a very generous trial period to make sure his product will fit in well with the rest of your gear. If I remember correctly, it's 45 days.

I bought my Mystique X-24 AM from him new. He advised me to leave it fully powered on, with a digital source playing into it and the dac's output going into a powered pre-amp or amp that is on continually for at least (I think for 150 hours) to break it in. There are a lot of chokes in this unit.

I remember when I first hooked it up in my system, right out of the box... it sounded kind of dull, congested, lifeless, etc. By about 100 hours, it really started to come to life and after 150 hours it was singing. Now, it just floors me with it's musicality, it's fullness, it's dynamics, etc.

I can honestly say this wasn't just a case of me growing accustomed to it. This dac really did change. I had an audiophile friend come hear it a couple of days after I had it first installed. He came back for a listen about a month later and we had to pick his jaw up off the floor because of how much the sound had changed. Unbelievable!

I have a forum friend that bought a used one. He wasn't impressed by the dac at all and returned it to the dealer that he bought it from. I truly believe that he didn't allow enough time for it to resettle and re-energize, for lack of a better term, all of the components in the dac. Even though the dac was used and I would imagine was broken-in at some point; I still think it may take a substantial amount of time, being fully on - actually being used within the connected system for it to come on song again. Or, maybe it's possible that it didn't gel with the other components in his system?

All I can say is that I am absolutely gobsmacked with this dac in my system. In addition, a few weeks ago I spent 3 days at AXPONA hearing the likes of Wadax, DCS, Esoteric, EMM, MSB, and the like. Mojo was also playing in a room there, without me knowing. I was impressed by the sound in that particular room and then when I happened to notice the dac was the Mojo, I completely understood why!

I'm floored by the sound it reproduces off of the recordings with such a small footprint. It doesn't require several large boxes, connected with several multi-thousand dollar cables, taking up tons of precious real estate in your music room.... and best of all, you don't have to deplete your 401K to acquire it either, lol.

Here's a pic of how little space is required to place the Mojo dac, shown on the shelf directly below my Jay's dedicated cd transport...

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Here's wishing you choose a dac that will not only meet your needs, but will also give you many years of musical bliss!

Best wishes,
Don
 
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Interesting thread.

As I'm also looking for a new DAC at the moment, I'm happy to read along here.

I currently have the following devices on my “hotlist”:

- Mola Mola Tambaqui

- T+A DAC 200

- Weiss D501

All three are available in midi format and in silver. However, all three offer many functions that I don't actually need (preamp function, various inputs, etc.)

I actually “only” need a USB input and a fixed-level output in XLR format, ideally with an internal, balanced architecture.

There's a second-hand QB-9 Twenty from Ayre on sale at the moment - in principle, that would be enough for the “requirements”.

Or the “Mystique Y” from Mojo Audio, which @No Regrets recommended, would also fit the bill.

What would be your recommendation to bring digital to a comparable level to analog (which would/should be primary source…)

Fully setup is in the signature - thanks a lot.

atb, Tom

I recommend Weiss DAC . Very good sound with all digital inputs, both USB and SPDIF.

T+A is not even close to Weiss.
Mola Mola is very low noise with good measurements but I think Weiss is ahead.

In analog domain You can also adjust the Weiss output voltage to fit the input voltage range of preamplifier.
 
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Interesting thread.

As I'm also looking for a new DAC at the moment, I'm happy to read along here.

I currently have the following devices on my “hotlist”:

- Mola Mola Tambaqui

- T+A DAC 200

- Weiss D501

All three are available in midi format and in silver. However, all three offer many functions that I don't actually need (preamp function, various inputs, etc.)

I actually “only” need a USB input and a fixed-level output in XLR format, ideally with an internal, balanced architecture.

There's a second-hand QB-9 Twenty from Ayre on sale at the moment - in principle, that would be enough for the “requirements”.

Or the “Mystique Y” from Mojo Audio, which @No Regrets recommended, would also fit the bill.

What would be your recommendation to bring digital to a comparable level to analog (which would/should be primary source…)

Fully setup is in the signature - thanks a lot.

atb, Tom
My suggestion is that you listen to the Totaldac DACs, they are all very musical.

Maybe the Core or the Unity:
d1-core DAC: 5600euros incl VAT in Europe, 5150euros excl VAT out of Europe
d1-unity DAC: 12500euros incl VAT in Europe, 11500euros excl VAT out of Europe
d1-biunity DAC: 18250euros incl VAT in Europe, 16750euros excl VAT out of Europe
d1-triunity DAC: 24000euros incl VAT in Europe, 22000euros excl VAT out of Europe
d1-sublime DAC (4 boxes): 50000euros incl VAT in Europe, 46000euros excl VAT out of Europe

 
Stavros and Lukasz
 
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Not in implied order of greatness or anything...they are all great!

1. Andreas Koch of Playback Designs; fwiw, in my 30+ years of playing with high end audio, I never came across a DAC as magical, musical, thought provoking, and engaging as the MPD-8. Discrete double-differential(!!), three large capacity low noise independent power supplies, massive casework, dual mono design, proprietary fiber link, custom and obviously super special reconstruction filters...all from a designer who had a major hand in the design and evolution of the DSD process...it's an engineer's dream to be able to build such an incredible machine.
2. Mike Moffat: Theta Digital; Back in the day with the Theta Pro Basic and the like, Mike's invention of the "Jitter Jail" was a unique and successful approach to dealing with correlated noise. I recall that Theta DACs were on the prohibited US export list due to the innovations inside the DAC. The analog implementation starting with very robust power supplies and the use of the BUF-03 MIL-SPEC output buffer made for one very high dynamic and forceful dac. Lot's of happy smiles and listening sessions with Theta gear!
3. Ted Smith/ PS Audio and disciple of Andreas Koch (it may be folklore, but Ted is rumored to have learned, or was highly inspired, to get started in his own FPGA based DACs from Andreas Koch). PS audio came out with a superbly musical DAC for a great price.
4. Ed Meitner , EMM labs. Another guru of the FPGA based DACs. Loved the MA1 V2 and MA3 DACs. Highly musical, captivating sound and high value to boot.
5. Michael Ritter, Michael Pflaumer, and Keith Johnson of Berkely Audio. They all had a huge part in the incredible Berkeley DACs and made one hell-uva team! Michael/ Keith simply have to be on the list of digital gurus...like the Nelson Pass's of digital. Pacific Microsystems developer of the HDCD process.. on and on

There are so many really good digital design engineers out there but these few really stand out for me. Cheers!
 

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