Will Facebook flop?

Way overpriced, ack. If fb was valued as Apple, the shares should be maximum $8.

However, Zukerberg has a greater problem. He will never again be able to eat out without wondering what the staff has done to his food.
He was in Rome the other day, on his honeymoon. The Zukerbergs ate out, and left no tip at Nonna Betta - something the staff at the restaurant informed interested staff worldwide of through Twitter and other channels.

The general consensus among those who wait on others, is that they can't wait to wait on Zukerberg. It's been fun to follow the www-response.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...-Zuckerberg-left-no-tip-after-Rome-lunch.html
 
The negative news continues to pour in. I think this one has a valid point though regarding the heavy footprint Facebook web experience has which doesn't translate well to mobile's small screen. He predicts by 2020, they will be yesterday's news: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2405347,00.asp

Analyst Predicts Facebook's Demise by 2020
Could Facebook be headed for extinction? Despite its immense popularity, at least one analyst thinks the social network's end is in sight.

"In five to eight years they are going to disappear in the way that Yahoo has disappeared," Ironfire Capital founder Eric Jackson said Monday during an appearance on the CNBC show Squawk on the Street. "Yahoo is still making money, it's still profitable, still has 13,000 employees working for it, but it's 10 percent of the value that it was at the height of 2000. For all intents and purposes, it's disappeared."

So why, exactly, does Jackson think Facebook will follow in Yahoo's footsteps? He says Facebook will continue to lag on the new Internet frontier: mobile.

Facebook's February IPO filing revealed that the company had more than 425 million monthly active mobile users during December 2011, or about half of its worldwide user base. But while that number might be impressive, those users aren't making Facebook any money at this point.

Facebook has moved to address concerns that it isn't doing enough to satisfy mobile users, buying Instagram for $1 billion, and hiring the development team behind the Lightbox Android photo app. Jackson thinks the social network's mobile woes will continue despite those moves.

"Facebook can buy a bunch of mobile companies, but [it is] still a big, fat website, and that's different from a mobile app," he said.

In Jackson's view, there are three generations of modern Internet companies. The first generation includes businesses like Google and Yahoo that organized and aggregated data on the Web. The second generation, led by Facebook, made the Web social. Now, the third generation is made up of companies focused on monetizing mobile platforms.

"The world is moving faster, it's getting more competitive, not less," the analyst said. "I think those who are dominant in their prior generation are really going to have a hard time moving into this newer generation."

History proves that Web companies have difficulty translating success from one generation to another, Jackson said.

"Look at how Google has struggled moving into social, and I think Facebook is going to have the same kind of challenges moving into mobile," he said.

What's your take on the issue? Do you think Facebook will go extinct?
 
I never opened a Facebook account. Maybe I'm too old school about not putting everything out there for all to see. For my friends that do have it, which is all but one I think, they say they are using it less and less. I'd really like to see the churn rate numbers. I have a feeling that the trend is towards negative growth.
 
Soon enough some wiz kid will come with another, much more updated , with our times, fun recipe.

And Facebook would simply become a dodo. :b ...It's already on its way.

* Hundred years from now (less), computers will perform totally different tasks,
and people will start to become humans again. :b ...Hopefully! :eek:
 
Reports: UBS may have $350M Facebook trade losses
Associated Press

NEW YORK (AP) — Swiss bank UBS AG may have lost as much as $350 million due to technical glitches on the Nasdaq stock exchange the day Facebook went public, according to reports published Friday.
CNBC and The Wall Street Journal, citing people familiar with the matter, reported that UBS is considering legal action against Nasdaq as a result.
UBS spokeswoman Karina Byrne confirmed that the bank lost money due to Nasdaq's technical issues when the social networking company's stock began trading on May 18.
Byrne declined to disclose the amount but said it was "not material" to the bank. She said UBS has not taken legal action but is weighing its options for recovering its losses.
"Given the size of our U.S. equities business and our role as a major market maker, UBS was affected by these issues, as we believe other market participants may have been," Byrne said in a statement.
Nasdaq declined comment on the reports Friday.
The $350 million figure dwarfs previous estimates for the combined losses resulting from technical glitches at Nasdaq during Facebook's first day of trading. This week, the exchange said it would hand out $40 million in cash and credit to reimburse investment firms.
Facebook Inc.'s initial public stock offering was one of the most widely anticipated market debuts in years. But it quickly turned chaotic.
The opening was delayed by half an hour. Then, technical problems kept many investors from buying shares in the morning, or selling them later in the day, or even knowing whether their orders went through. Some investors complained they were left holding shares they didn't want.
According to CNBC and the Journal, UBS placed an order for 1 million shares but did not receive confirmations and repeated the order several times. So it ended up with much more stock than it intended.
Facebook's stock originally priced at $38 and closed that first day at $38.23, disappointing those hoping for a first-day surge. Nasdaq has said it was embarrassed by the glitches but that they didn't contribute to the underwhelming returns.
 
Steve,
quite funny.
So they state UBS lost $350m due to glitches, but were only buying 1m shares.... so did the trader behave like an angry impatient user and keep bashing enter :) (ok I appreciate it is a bit more complex than that)
You would think common sense would rule rather than trying 8-10 times placing the order lol.
I think that is more than "repeated several times" and will be difficult to argue that all of this is solely the fault of Nasdaq :)
Maybe they had too many cups of coffee that morning.

I can imagine the trader; "it was not my fault.... I placed the $38m order and as there was no response decided to repeat until there was one... not my fault there was still no response after my 8th order" :)
Cheers
Orb
 
---But then there was also insider information not made available to the public; which should have been.

* Isn't it how the whole world economy works anyway? ...Underground activities, contracts, and all that pizzazz?
...And in all domains of our societies? ...And since the very beginning of times (creation of the human race) up to now?
Are illusions the true realities? ...Money and power their well dressed tuxedos and gowns and guns?

What is new with Facebook that we didn't already know?
 
Wasn't it like $38?
 
Face book did good marketing and sold a lot of stock at a high price , i might hope Zuckerberg would be smart enough not to have to many stocks himself .
Its the buyers own fault if they lose , its an open market
Actually he owns a lot and continues to own them. In exchange for letting the rest of the employees sell out sooner, he promised that he would not sell his for another year or so.
 
Actually he owns a lot and continues to own them. In exchange for letting the rest of the employees sell out sooner, he promised that he would not sell his for another year or so.

-----Wow, they must be trembling right now. ...The ones who are still holding on. :eek:
 
Wait till the 6 month lockout expires... or when the first Restricted Stock Units or options mature on the first anniversary next year... all time low was 17.75
 

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