Wish me luck...

Good luck Mark, I'll certainly keep my fingers crossed for you and once all set up and sounding good if an invite comes along then I may just manage a trip to Norwich sometime. Good luck with set up and getting the sound your after, it may take a wee while of tweaking but I'm sure you'll manage.
 
Sencha, I'll get Mahavishnu Orchestra sounding suitably full tilt before you visit
 
...Lloyd, I've done my best re contractors, have had to pay a lot of attention to acoustically isolating the loft from the main living space below with Kingspan and Rockwool, and I'm proud to probably have as effective a power solution as anyone else in the UK short of going all batteries like Rodney Gold

good stuff...we did acoustic insulation under the floor as well. We stopped short of the full-on power treatment, and went with dedicated lines, a backup battery that allows the system to run even after a power outtage for up to a few hours (but in reality is so that we can safely turn everything off), and a dedicated high-ampereage line and outlet just for the Colosseum amp.

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Hey Lloyd, looks like we're both keeping up with The Jones'.
 
My main consideration is that after two decades of ongoing upgrading and tweaking, my last round of changes boosted my sound to a level I was beyond ecstatic with
Four weeks later I packed the system ahead as I put my apartment on sale...
Twelve months on I'm ready to unpack and set my system up in a wholly different room, and with a virgin power supply
On paper, things should be win-win
In practice...
 
Gawd Peter, now you're asking,
I'm about as computer savvy as my GF's cat, but I'll try and upload photos in due course with a bit of help from my 21st century adjusted friends
 
New room, new journey, will be interesting to see where it takes you Marc. Best of luck and enjoy!
 
My main consideration is that after two decades of ongoing upgrading and tweaking, my last round of changes boosted my sound to a level I was beyond ecstatic with
Four weeks later I packed the system ahead as I put my apartment on sale...
Twelve months on I'm ready to unpack and set my system up in a wholly different room, and with a virgin power supply
On paper, things should be win-win
In practice...

The good thing is you know your equipment, if not your room. From my own personal experience, i found that many of the original isolation/emi/rfi things i had taken 2 years to slowly learn to do still work in the current setup (as i suppose they should?)...so it was not totally back to the beginning. The new room is also far better, but like any room has its own sound and features, which now needs dialing in...and that could take a while. stay tuned!

look forward to reading more on your adventures.
 
My main consideration is that after two decades of ongoing upgrading and tweaking, my last round of changes boosted my sound to a level I was beyond ecstatic with
Four weeks later I packed the system ahead as I put my apartment on sale...
Twelve months on I'm ready to unpack and set my system up in a wholly different room, and with a virgin power supply
On paper, things should be win-win
In practice...

On paper it means some effort to reach a sound that will please you, and probably some changes. IMHO you can not expect moving in a new room and transporting with you immediately the same sound you had in a previous room, although if you are very, very lucky it can be immediately better!

Every time I moved I changed a lot of equipment - the first listening room was an "easy" room in an old house with high ceilings, second was a modern very solid building much more critical, and the current one needed bass trapping. Each of them asked for a different system. ;)
 
Micro, I think I get that
I have precisely less than zero budget for any immediate upgrades
The $60k I've spent constructing the space has effectively been a few years' upgrade budget spent in one go
This means that I'm forced to adapt to the space before I can practically consider any serious changes
This will be a good discipline for me, really get to wrangle the room, and get to know it for an extended period
I'll set some cash aside for tentative acoustics treatments like GIKs, but not much else
Will be a good test of character to stay handcuffed and not be able to reach for my credit card
Strangely my GF agrees enthusiastically with this policy, more funds for her dream garden
Apparently
 
Micro, I think I get that
I have precisely less than zero budget for any immediate upgrades
The $60k I've spent constructing the space has effectively been a few years' upgrade budget spent in one go
This means that I'm forced to adapt to the space before I can practically consider any serious changes
This will be a good discipline for me, really get to wrangle the room, and get to know it for an extended period
I'll set some cash aside for tentative acoustics treatments like GIKs, but not much else
Will be a good test of character to stay handcuffed and not be able to reach for my credit card
Strangely my GF agrees enthusiastically with this policy, more funds for her dream garden
Apparently

I went through the same situation after each move - funds were needed for other more realistic purposes than the stereo illusion. But to be true every time I was so busy and full of enthusiasm with the new houses that for the following year the system was just idling.

Just one detail - I see you are mainly a vinyl audiophile. A good thing, I found it is easier to get a decent sound from an analog system from start than from a digital system.
 
Well, my first spend will be a Speirs And Robertson air rolling diaphragm active shelf, good for isolating to below 2Hz, to isolate the tt
But big component spends, like the new flagship Zus released at Munich 2017 that I really really want, will have to wait awhile longer
 
Well, my first spend will be a Speirs And Robertson air rolling diaphragm active shelf, good for isolating to below 2Hz, to isolate the tt
But big component spends, like the new flagship Zus released at Munich 2017 that I really really want, will have to wait awhile longer

Hey!, you're already spending. Stop it.

I surely don't envy your first three months of break in with 100m of Oyaide, new Furutechs, not to mention the wiring back to the house line. That sounds like giving up biscuits for three months. Hell on earth.

My advice is to set the system up, play your prog rock for as long as you can each day, no neighbours to worry about, and next year start to listen properly otherwise you'll be forever chasing the changes wrought by break in.

Spend the next three months learning about your new home, the environment around you, discover new pubs and restaurants and enjoy your new found commitments.

It's sad to see you leave London but remember there is always an open house here in Hackney.

I wish you both health, happiness and prosperity for the years to come with a touch of Audio heaven thrown in.

Blue58
 
Yes, the joy of burning in 100m of Oyaide dedicated lines doesn't bear thinking about
Your system remains an excellent benchmark to compare my evolving sound to
Blank canvas concept is equal part voyage of discovery/borderline nervous breakdown potential
Thanks for the support
 
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Hi Marc
At the risk of teaching you to suck eggs, it's a great opportunity to clean all the plugs and contacts before putting it all back together again. LLoyd recently cleaned all his with Deoxit Gold and found it made an audible improvement.
 
Will go there, thanx Barry
 
Like Lloyd LL21 who I know is in the midst of installing his system in a new room, I'll be doing the same in the next couple of months
I've moved from a London apartment, a converted 27' X 22' X 13' loft, all concrete, glass, standing waves and never ending slap echo, to a more acoustically controlled bespoke roof loft space in my 1861 Victorian chapel, Kingspan acoustically treated ceiling and floor, no windows, symmetrical layout with gable eaves 18' X 38' X 10' max at midline apex descending down to 4' high at sidewalls
Other than reasonable acoustic isolation of floor and ceiling, I've gone all out on power, splitting audio space electrics from the rest of the chapel with a 16mm SWA cable to a dedicated consumer unit, wired into my Westwick 8kVA balanced transformer, and six Oyaide dedicated lines to Furutech US sockets. My last decision here is whether to run a dedicated copper ground rod to drop impedance towards zero Ohms
So my aim is to get a more acoustically sympathetic blank canvas with as quiet, unadulterated power as possible, and certainly I will achieve this
But I'll certainly be fretting as I unload my gear and set it all up, I had lived with my previous space for a good 18 years and did all my upgrading within it
Hopefully I can rely on more than just luck getting things right, but a WBF mass crossing of fingers wouldn't go amiss
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All the best of luck,..tick the box regarding additional fingers crossed for you! Simply from the aspect of the type of room, materials, construction and (inferring) some interesting architectural nuances present in 'a chapel' I'd say you are in for one hell of a great ride! Even with 100m, multiple outlets, and all the rest to break in, leaving system on and running for 3 weeks+ (don't think it will take 3 months...), you will definitely hear the results of all your hard work! On the new ground rod, I could suggest (based upon good advice I took from an audiophile-master electrician here), trying dual ground rods, solid copper of thick gauge of course, 8 feet in length (or 10), pounded in about 8 feet apart from each other then using a single 4-gauge (or suitable large) solid lead from rod1 to rod2 to main panel of the home. Investigate "CADWELD" kits and have the ground lead weld-bonded to both ground rods. You won't be sorry,...the improvement is very noticeable. My 2 cents...Cheers!
 
Yes, the joy of burning in 100m of Oyaide dedicated lines doesn't bear thinking about
Your system remains an excellent benchmark to compare my evolving sound to
Blank canvas concept is equal part voyage of discovery/borderline nervous breakdown potential
Thanks for the support

As long as your dedicated power lines have a breaker that cuts neutral and phase you can always use a fast burn-in device to speed thinks.

Or even easier - get a very cheap 200W amplifier and a CD player and drive the mains wires with the outputs playing a burn-in CD in repeat mode. If you are perfectionist use 100 ohm resistors as load at each Furutech. My preferred burn-in CD is the Purist Audio - it sounds so terrible that it should be good for burn-in.
 

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