The most difficult thing for some audiophiles is to worry about what visitors say on the forum after they listen to their system
or what is said to or about the brave individuals who ever post videos of their system :eek: PS for the record I value everyone who shares
 
The most difficult thing for some audiophiles is to worry about what visitors say on the forum after they listen to their system
I always welcome any comments.
People often say, do you mind if I make a suggestion.

My response, politely is. I don't mind as long as you don't mind if I don't use it.
 
The most difficult thing for some audiophiles is to worry about what visitors say on the forum after they listen to their system
"I have that record, and it doesn't sound LIKE THAT." : seems the last couple of guys. I think its a compliment, but who knows. You can always inadvertently invite an invidious curmudgeon.

Most audiophiles are too polite to tell you they think your system sucks to your face, but I have heard many laugh under their breaths that so and so's system isn't all that that they think it is, like they are some poor, retarded child with toys beyond their ken..
 
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Most audiophiles are too polite to tell you they think your system sucks to your face, but I have heard many laugh under their breaths that so and so's system isn't all that that they think it is, like they are some poor, retarded child with toys beyond their ken..
If most audiophiles are being extra polite the host has a problem they know about
 
If I had listeners reform my system for me, I would probably wind up throwing it away. It already intoxicates me beyond my personal endurance, and that's quite good enough. If that's entirely personal and doesn't graft onto the sensibilities of others, so be it.
 
It already intoxicates me beyond my personal endurance, and that's quite good enough. If that's entirely personal and doesn't graft onto the sensibilities of others, so be it.

I applaud this philosophy.
 
Spectrum Analyzer RTA on iPad with Earthworks external mic, 48V phantom power, on mic stand in middle of ears listening position:

FFT Size: 8192

Window: Hamming

Average: Slow

Graph: Simple

Scale: Decade


Weighting: Flat
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Weighting: C
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The SPL below 200 Hz is completely adjustable with the woofer towers level adjustment.

I should have evolved right to this set-up. I should not have spent a week futzing around with an iPhone app

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Even at 95dB the brightness seems to have gone away. It is, to be sure, a modern, not a vintage, tonal balance. It does not sound like the Bionor.

But now it is sounding pretty much right to me. Elton John sounds right. Stevie sounds about right. Carole King sounds great. Maybe the brightness was the ribbons needing to break in after all (as KeithR kept admonishing me)?

This is now pretty much what I hoped these beasts would sound like. I am happy!
 
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I just noticed, sitting at the far edge of the couch, that the off-axis presentation is much better (still genuinely enjoyable) than the Martin-Logan Prodigys. This is consistent with Gary Koh's view that his speakers still sound wonderful for people seated on the sides of the center spot of the Genesis Primes.
 
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The SPL below 200 Hz is completely adjustable with the woofer towers level adjustment.

I should have evolved right to this set-up. I should not have spent a week futzing around with an iPhone app

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I do something similar but I use a Behringer DEQ 2496, which has a 1/6th octave RTA built into it. I have a Behringer calibrated microphone that I use. The Behringer also has it's own pink noise generator! Not bad for under $300, including the microphone.
 
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Spectrum Analyzer RTA on iPad with Earthworks external mic, 48V phantom power, on mic stand in middle of ears listening position:

FFT Size: 8192

Window: Hamming

Average: Slow

Graph: Simple

Scale: Decade


Weighting: Flat
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Weighting: C
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Very smooth in the mid-band as I would expect from a BG planar. I am surprised the rolloff is that steep above 5Khz as I don't think you have a lot of damping in the room. What is the listening distance and what is the distance from the BG driver to the side walls?
 
Ron do you ever feel the room becomes active? not just pink or white noise but very dynamic music ? play tape it’s to me powerful and can show a rooms possible flaws.
Gary,s speakers do play very well off axis for sure
 
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It is, to be sure, a modern, not a vintage, tonal balance. It does not sound like the Bionor.

flawed statement. Bionor tone is neither vintage nor modern except it does not have a tweeter. The bionor tone, timbre, and flow especially when matched with the whole Kondo system can only be matched by the Yamamura and another bespoke horn I had heard which had modern drivers. That said rest of the things of those speakers differ. Now western electric, for example, is a vintage tone. But Altec is not, TAD drivers in a horn are not, jbl drivers are not.

Unless you think SETs horns is a vintage tone and push pull 750 watt ribbons is not. Latter is going to sound different to the former for sure.
 
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flawed statement. Bionor tone is neither vintage nor modern except it does not have a tweeter. The bionor tone, timbre, and flow can only be matched by the Yamamura and another bespoke horn I had heard which had modern drivers. That said rest of the things of those speakers differ. Now western electric, for example, is a vintage tone. But Altec is not, TAD drivers in a horn are not, jbl drivers are not.

Unless you think SETs horns is a vintage tone and SS ribbons is not. Latter is going to sound different to the former for sure.
Great info Bonzo - Thanx for sharing your knowledge ;) , always nice.

All the best

/ Jk
 
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Trying to learn how to use this analyzer with my IPhone. was able to do a quick graph, so moved it to the thread here.

 
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Trying to learn how to use this analyzer with my IPhone.

using pink noise from Tidal. not sure about the i-phone mic, or anything else either for that matter. if i'm doing something wrong coach me up.

Ron, if this is a distraction glad to delete it.

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To my eyes, it looks like it’s very fun to play and listen to music in your room, Mike ;)

/ Jk
 
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