Esoteric Grandioso SE products announced

GSOphile · Oct 19, 2023

SE versions of D1X, P1X, K1X as well as upgrades to new versions.

Esoteric’s flagship Grandioso digital players, the Grandioso P1X, D1X and K1X are now available with the “SE” models for even higher sound quality. | News Details | ESOTERIC:Japan high-end audio manufacturer | エソテリック

Esoteric’s flagship Grandioso digital players, the Grandioso P1X, D1X and K1X are now available with the “SE” models for even higher sound quality.

www.esoteric.jp

gadawg58 · Oct 23, 2023

Seems on the digital side they have spent a great deal of time working on their Clock technology. Will be interesting to hear the results.

DBK · Dec 23, 2023

gadawg58 said:
Seems on the digital side they have spent a great deal of time working on their Clock technology. Will be interesting to hear the results.

I have similar Esoteric/Aurender components (D-02X/G-01X and Aurender20SE). I have you thought about upgrading to the Grandioso K1X/SE to add the CD/SACD. Wondering if loss of dual mono inputs for the Aurender would compromise SQ from it? Any thoughts to share about that upgrade path? Dixon

GSOphile · Dec 23, 2023

Esoteric presentation in English at 2023 Tokyo Int'l Audio Show:https:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaY7hHBP1ps

gadawg58 · Dec 23, 2023

DBK said:
I have similar Esoteric/Aurender components (D-02X/G-01X and Aurender20SE). I have you thought about upgrading to the Grandioso K1X/SE to add the CD/SACD. Wondering if loss of dual mono inputs for the Aurender would compromise SQ from it? Any thoughts to share about that upgrade path? Dixon

I already have the P-02X transport for CD/SACD and is connected via ESLink. I think for upgrade path I'm considering the D1X SE this coming spring and the Grandioso clock. Then next year I'll likely upgrade my transport to the P1X SE just to get any improvement there as my digital listening primarily comes from SACD/CD. I think that the K1XSE is probably very close but if I stay the course with Esoteric I'll likely go for the mono dacs! I am going to audition a few other brands as well since I'll likely replace everything over the next year and want to ensure I'm buying what works the best in my system.

George

DBK · Dec 24, 2023

gadawg58 said:
I already have the P-02X transport for CD/SACD and is connected via ESLink. I think for upgrade path I'm considering the D1X SE this coming spring and the Grandioso clock. Then next year I'll likely upgrade my transport to the P1X SE just to get any improvement there as my digital listening primarily comes from SACD/CD. I think that the K1XSE is probably very close but if I stay the course with Esoteric I'll likely go for the mono dacs! I am going to audition a few other brands as well since I'll likely replace everything over the next year and want to ensure I'm buying what works the best in my system.

George

Makes sense. Adding in the Grandiose clock will be put to good use on at least components (DAC/SACD/Aurender). Enjoy this next stage of the journey in 2024.

gadawg58 · Dec 24, 2023

Question is if the Esoteric Clock with the 50 ohm output is compatible with the 75 ohm tap on the Aurender Clock in?? I'm not thinking they are a good match because of the impedance difference?

George

GSOphile · Dec 24, 2023

gadawg58 said:
Question is if the Esoteric Clock with the 50 ohm output is compatible with the 75 ohm tap on the Aurender Clock in?? I'm not thinking they are a good match because of the impedance difference?

George

If you use a Cybershaft clock, you can set each clock cable output to 50 or 75 ohms via a switch next to each output.

Birdwatcher · Dec 25, 2023

You should think about the Mutec REF 10 clock, a phenomenal professional clock, too.

DBK · Dec 25, 2023

This is quite a useful document about the subject.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0660/6121/files/UpTone-J.Swenson_Clock_Considerations.pdf?v=1679587466

Conclusion: “Impedance matching of clock/cable/device matters only when using a square wave clock; it does not matter at all when using a sine wave clock.”

thedudeabides · Jan 17, 2024

Do not want to make any Esoteric fans angry but what do you all think about the time interval between updates?

GSOphile · Jan 17, 2024

DBK said:
This is quite a useful document about the subject.

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0660/6121/files/UpTone-J.Swenson_Clock_Considerations.pdf?v=1679587466

Conclusion: “Impedance matching of clock/cable/device matters only when using a square wave clock; it does not matter at all when using a sine wave clock.”

I read the article. It was interesting, but the UpTone author's recommendations were a bit more nuanced than your paraphrased conclusion. I think I'll stick with my equipment manufacturers' cable impedance specifications.

gadawg58 · Jun 28, 2024

Well it took a minute but I now have a pair of D1XSE Monoblock dacs sitting in my system along with a DCS Vivaldi for Audition! More to come …

George

gadawg58 · Aug 8, 2024

gadawg58 said:
Well it took a minute but I now have a pair of D1XSE Monoblock dacs sitting in my system along with a DCS Vivaldi for Audition! More to come …

George

I won’t go into a ton of detail here but if you didn’t see my other thread … the Esoteric D1XSE’s won! They are simply the best sounding DACS I’ve ever had in my room. Done!

George

Birdwatcher · Apr 14, 2025

Are there any listeners or owners, who have upgraded a Grandioso K1X to the SE resp. listened to them maybe even side by side?

I still hesitate to invest in a very good SACD playback now, in year 2025, even if I already have a very musical Zanden 2000p/5000s redbook CD playback system.

What can I expect from the latest (K1X SE) or second latest (K1X) Grandioso? Unfortunately I have never heard them in my own system.

GSOphile · Apr 14, 2025

Birdwatcher said:
Are there any listeners or owners, who have upgraded a Grandioso K1X to the SE resp. listened to them maybe even side by side?

I still hesitate to invest in a very good SACD playback now, in year 2025, even if I already have a very musical Zanden 2000p/5000s redbook CD playback system.

What can I expect from the latest (K1X SE) or second latest (K1X) Grandioso? Unfortunately I have never heard them in my own system.

My Esoteric dealer, whose judgement and integrity I respect, said that in his opinion the new K-01XD SE outperforms the K1X. Full disclosure: I own a K-01XD, but have not heard a K1X or any SE model to date.

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