I am breaking in the 802 as well and have found them to be a refinement as well, especially in the bass. I think the upgrade is commensurate to the change from OS1 to rs1003
The small “microphone” tubes look interesting- what type of tubes are they?Laszlo’s package arrived yesterday and I must say they look lovely! The ef802 are unused, so I immediately slapped them in for a week of burn in before any critical listening. The subminiature microphone tubes alongside look tiny yet exquisite. Based on what Laszlo tells me, they should be an interesting listening proposition and are great value. Since the tubes have flying leads, they are soldered directly into the base and avoid having another base / socket interface to navigate. Given our experiences of how different adapters can impact sound quality, this augers well.
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6s2b-vThe small “microphone” tubes look interesting- what type of tubes are they?
You are in for a real treat Mark. For me having tried them all including the much lauded and heretofore my very favorite TFKN c3gs, this TFKN ef802 is end game. ...not too hot, not too cold but "just right"Laszlo’s package arrived yesterday and I must say they look lovely! The ef802 are unused, so I immediately slapped them in for a week of burn in before any critical listening. The subminiature microphone tubes alongside look tiny yet exquisite. Based on what Laszlo tells me, they should be an interesting listening proposition and are great value. Since the tubes have flying leads, they are soldered directly into the base and avoid having another base / socket interface to navigate. Given our experiences of how different adapters can impact sound quality, this augers well.
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Laszlo and Tibor to we tube whackos are truly system changers as they have opened our eyes to the world of tubes that none of us would have ever experienced without themView attachment 131667
Here are the Russian subminiature tubes that @Sablon Audio mentioned. They're really small! Here is a picture for scale against the P17C; each tube is about the size of a AAA battery.
For anyone who has not yet tried the C3G, I'd suggest reach out to Laszlo and trying these. Hats off to @takacs75 for finding something that's superb (some pros/cons compared to the TFK C3G) but quite a bit more available. I'm still undecided if I like the TFK C3G more or not, but I'm certainly humbled by how good these are (I had presumed that these little Russian tubes might not be).
Obviously, YMMV since the Horizon blends the triodes together w/ the pentodes; in this case I'm running GEC KT88.
How many hours have you given it Keith? They were new when I received them and I gave them almost 200hrs before listening myself.View attachment 131850
The TFK EF802 is just opening a really special bottle.
Wow, I ask, where the hell did this one come one?
Better savor it while it lasts.
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The TFK EF802 is just opening a really special bottle.
Wow, I ask, where the hell did this one come one?
Better savor it while it lasts.
They look like P17C...The EF802 is indeed "just right"
What are the power tubes on the left
Simone is that unit's color called silver? Real copper top?
Yes! Sahara Silver with copper top. The zebrano adapters from @takacs75 look gorgeous on the copper backgroundSimone is that unit's color called silver? Real copper top?
bellissimo!Yes! Sahara Silver with copper top. The zebrano adapters from @takacs75 look gorgeous on the copper background![]()
P17c sfr good but inherently noisyThe EF802 is indeed "just right"
What are the power tubes on the left