Decca Mehta - sonically decent but towards that end of the clip I recorded he is so rushed. This is Mahler 3, also on decca Mehta
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Decca Mehta - sonically decent but towards that end of the clip I recorded he is so rushed. This is Mahler 3, also on decca Mehta
Reiner with Chicago Symphony
RCA LSC-2343
This is not a 'special' 5th.
Quite different recording from yr post #1
Beethoven 5th Symphony -- 1st Movement
Beethoven's 5th Symphony, Opus 67 in C-minor, 1st Movement.Fritz Reiner, Chicago Symphony, 1959RCA LSC-2343www.youtube.com
i love the Reiner
this is the third movement on the Altec.
Post in thread 'Todd's AG Trio G3 System -- it's about time'
https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/todds-ag-trio-g3-system-its-about-time.36813/post-930012
The hORNs Universum is playing with 5 hours on a new Hana ML, a GM70 which while an excellent 14w amp underpowers it slightly, and the speaker is not in its usual place as the Lowther/Beyma cone speaker is in its place. 4k Chinese TT with arm combined.
Yes it does, but it is not, although the connection is there as John Williams is the composer. The first Star Wars movie was 1977 while this came five years later in 1982.
It is 'Abandoned and Pursued' from E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (MCA-6109.) If it was 100 years earlier it might have been Wagner. ;-o
The soundtrack won an Academy Award for Best Original Score, a Grammy Award for Best Score Soundtrack and the BAFTA award. There are numerous re-issues and Abandoned and Pursued is found only on the original and on the 2017 reissue. MCA-6109
Columbia M2S 601 (2xLP, 6-eye) recorded in 1957/1958 at Carnegie Hall. Original edition. Hard to find in NM-- or better...
Here is the first ~11½ minutes of the 1st Movement recorded on my stereo. There is left channel click that ends after 1:05 and the side is clean after that. Turn it Up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD4gZIhBOso/url]
Here is the first ~11½ minutes of the 1st Movement recorded on my stereo. There is left channel click that ends after 1:05 and the side is clean after that. Turn it Up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD4gZIhBOso/url]
Did someone say 'fanfare'? I have a fanfare for you. I wrote about this piece in a review. And now you can hear it to see if your ears and my description match up.
"The orchestration for Aaron Copland's "Fanfare for the Common Man" (Telarc, 10078) includes 4 horns, 3 B-flat trumpets, 3 trombones, 1 tuba, a bass drum, timpani and a tam-tam—all and only brass and percussion, the traditional elements of a fanfare. Let's analyze the sound coming from the music's first measures. In the first two bars, the tam-tam (likely an orchestral-sized brass Chau gong) receives a single strike at double forte and a second strike at forte. The idea is to get your attention and, believe me, it does—big whacks at a big gong. ..." See my review write-up for the rest of the commentary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p35IvQ1Db0
Telarc DG-10078
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Actually, Peter, I was sorta’ thinking of other videos as Tim's videos weren't too bad. But listening to Tim's Copland video here, I'd say Tim’s videos certainly fall into that same questionable category.
Here’s my flavor of I think the same interpretation as Tim’s.
Listen to the bass notes for the first 20 seconds or so of either video. At around the 14 sec mark the bass on Tim’s video gets quite unmusical. With Tim's Copland video you should hear a rather odd bass as though it’s broadcasting from a deep dark tunnel and my ears are trapped in the same tunnel for greatest effect. That’s Tim’s room you’re hearing and those poorly-defined bass notes cannot be found in the recording. Not to mention the bass is greatly exaggerated. Tim's mids and highs seem much less scathed by this effect and sound musical.
Some may like or prefer this type of bass perhaps because that's what they hear in their own room. But I can assure you you'll never hear this type of bass live in a concert hall. To confirm all one needs to do is find and listen to the "official" youtube flavor.
Since we all have listening rooms and since no speaker/room interface is perfect, we all experience these same effects to one degree or another. Obviously, the goal is to absolutely minimize such effects. But that's what they are - effects. Even Tim's Copland video's bass is much better than some of others' videos.
Some may think Tim's video sounds warmer, richer, cozier, more musical sounding than my video which in comparison may come across as a bit thin or lean. But with such effects on Tim's bass regions and elsewhere, before determining which is more genuine, one needs to ask, are they hearing what's embedded in the recording or are they hearing what's embedded in the recording plus a good dose of the room?
If we're hearing a good dose of Tim's room, that inherently implies added warmth, richness, tonality, etc. because our rooms are tiny compared to the concert hall. And too many times it seems we confuse this room-induced warmth as being more musical. Especially if we hear similar sounds on our own configs. But such sounds are never heard in a sufficiently tuned concert hall or recording.
As I've mentioned before, it's kinda' like the sound of a bouncing basketball in a small fully furnished and carpeted walk-in-closet vs the sound of a bouncing basketball in a full-court gymnasium. One will sound warmer, richer, etc than the other but as we know a basketball's natural habitat is the full-court gym - not the walk-in-closet. Not the best analogy but I hope the point is made.
If you have a macbook and headphones I suggest volume level is 2 maybe 3 notches below max volume for best comparison.
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