Just updated my Zenith Mk3 to Sense 2.6.0 Wowza!! Another significant increase in sound quality particularly relating to dynamic range and separation of instruments. InnuOS comtinually improves performance and user interface of its Sense app. The Qobus integration is exemplary.
InnuOS is on a roll
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I hear a notable sonic uplift as well. Glad to (also) hear your confirmation, reducing my suspicion of a placebo effect.
I hear a notable sonic uplift as well. Glad to (also) hear your confirmation, reducing my suspicion of a placebo effect.
Wow, I could have sworn it sounded different as well. Glad to see others chiming in, too.
I did the update to my USB-connected Pulsar and didn’t think any more about it. However, when I listened that evening, I noticed a sound improvement, actually significant on some tracks. I didn’t make the connection that it could be related to 2.6.0 until I saw similar comments in some blogs I follow.
Republicoftexas69
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I spent the weekend tweaking the speaker set up and the acoustic treatment, moving some diffusers around the room, based on measurements made with REW. The sound improvement is evident now! Wait, are you saying it could be the 2.6 update I installed on Friday?
Yes, absolutely better. More dynamic, smoother high notes, more cohesion. I think what I hear is more resolution in the lowest registers. I think my subs are more articulate and I can appreciate the reverberations of the low and lowest ranges more. It cleaned out some murkiness so it seems to pop more with clarity.
I just updated to InnuOS Sense 3.0.0 yesterday, and afterwards I noticed significant audible changes immediately. After listening a bit more today, I am hearing here: a much deeper and wider soundstage (like "more space" - especially new layers of depth - in the phantom stereo soundscape), and less congestion in the middle range, enabling much more clarity in the middle. I think the PRAT is also better, as the musical event sounds slower (as in a good way) with more cohesion. The final sound is easier on the ear (aka, the brain) to listen to. My preception of this delta makes me feel like I am hearing less "pushing" of dynamics, and more "ease" of musical flow. Overall, very nice changes (for me here).
Anyone else have any initial Sense 3.0 aural impressions to share?
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My experience correlates with yours.
Yesterday, I listened to a recording I've always thought was sounding particularly "flat", only to discover layers upon layers of newly found depth.
In other recordings the difference was not as earth-shattering, but it was there alright.
I've also briefly tried Tidal Connect.
It's working just fine, but I seem to have a preference for the uncluttered GUI of the native Sense app, among other things.
I upgraded to 3.0 today.
Have not had a chance to really give it a good listen, but initially it's like I hit the 3D button.
NICE.
Have not had a chance to really give it a good listen, but initially it's like I hit the 3D button.
NICE.
I've been listening to 3.1 extensively these last few days and I'm really, really impressed.
This iteration of the Sense software seems to be moving beyond what has been offered so far in terms of what a software upgrade can provide, as the uptick in SQ is substantial and very broad in its effect.
The first thing that hits you is indeed the perception of depth and the dynamic bloom, but there is also a drastic reduction of what to me sounds like micro-distortions that tend appear at the edges of notes messing up their timing and timbre.
Cymbals, in particular sound so alive and true that it's hard to curb your enthusiasm as they spread their waves across the room.
Innuos always seemed to have provided one the most sibilant free sounds around, and to be honest this was one of the reasons I was attracted to their servers in the first place, but with the Sense 3 this is elevated to new heights, as even particularly tricky vocals sound very natural and pleasant, as they always should have.
Sincerely, a most impressive outcome!
This iteration of the Sense software seems to be moving beyond what has been offered so far in terms of what a software upgrade can provide, as the uptick in SQ is substantial and very broad in its effect.
The first thing that hits you is indeed the perception of depth and the dynamic bloom, but there is also a drastic reduction of what to me sounds like micro-distortions that tend appear at the edges of notes messing up their timing and timbre.
Cymbals, in particular sound so alive and true that it's hard to curb your enthusiasm as they spread their waves across the room.
Innuos always seemed to have provided one the most sibilant free sounds around, and to be honest this was one of the reasons I was attracted to their servers in the first place, but with the Sense 3 this is elevated to new heights, as even particularly tricky vocals sound very natural and pleasant, as they always should have.
Sincerely, a most impressive outcome!
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I also thought the recent InnuOS 3.0.1 upgrade made another noticeable improvement over the 3.0.0, which I described on my 24-July entry, cited in #9 above. The improvements in clarity and depth from the 3.0.0 remain, however the dynamics now are just a bit bolder, and in a completely natural way.
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I also thought the recent InnuOS 3.0.1 upgrade made another noticeable improvement over the 3.0.0, which I described on my 24-July entry, cited in #9 above. The improvements in clarity and depth from the 3.0.0 remain, however the dynamics now are just a bit bolder, and in a completely natural way.
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I am always puzzled by our impressions after the upgrades,
especially when nothing is announced by the manufacturer at the SQ level.
I think Sense 3.0.x is still good
Too bad we can’t downgrade the installed version
It’s fine if many find that it is even better with new versions
especially when nothing is announced by the manufacturer at the SQ level.
I think Sense 3.0.x is still good
Too bad we can’t downgrade the installed version
It’s fine if many find that it is even better with new versions
The SQ change after every updates has always puzzled me too...I am always puzzled by our impressions after the upgrades,
especially when nothing is announced by the manufacturer at the SQ level.
I think Sense 3.0.x is still good
Too bad we can’t downgrade the installed version
It’s fine if many find that it is even better with new versions
I had first started noticing these differences back when I had the sMS-200 Ultra.
Some of these upgrades, while clearly introducing a difference in SQ, seemed to never be unanimously "better"...
Sometimes they seemed better" at some aspects of the overall SQ, while perhaps changing other aspects, and depending on what the initial test tracks were, people would form one opinion or the other regarding SQ.
To me it seems that software goes hand in hand with the hardware and as far as updates go, they seem to influence the delicate sometimes balance in our systems and Sense 3 is certainly no stranger to that phenomenon.
Thus, the nature of each sequential update is not without its own controversy and manufacturers seem to have had acknowledged that.
That explains (partially) their hush-hush approach about going public with SQ improvements.
Another thing -not entirely unrelated to the point above- that also seems to apply here (and is especially true of "source" equipment) is the vast variation in systems and rooms streamers play into.
As for Innuos, this comes from the horse's (N. Vitorino) mouth regarding the Sense 3 upgrade: "...With Sense 3, the main changes in terms of sound were done for ZEN/ZENith Next-Gen only to make the most of the new architecture. We have a few improvements that we are testing for all systems. Do mind this is hi-fi, so it's all very personal and what some will consider an improvement, others may not. It is what it is. Every upgrade in our software is to both elevate sound quality and the user experience" (source: https://community.innuos.com/threads/sense-release-3-0-0.104/).
Republicoftexas69
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I have found every update to be an upgrade. However it may not be for all as you stated.
I know this goes against the experience of others. A friend updated to 3.0. We were both listening to his Pulsar for hours just prior to the update. We initiated the update to his Pulsar and made no discussion regarding our impressions until we finished listening through the same sequence of music we had heard just prior to the update. We both made same judgements, that after the update to 3.0 that the sonic images were flatter, less dimensional and there was clearly less air and density within the music.
I also own a Pulsar. Several years back, I updated my older Zenith to 2.0 there was a large improvement in sound quality. I have never experienced an update that took a step back in sound quality until now. I’m hesitant to update my own unit to a 3. version. I see now there is a version 3.01 and I’m wondering if this issue we experienced was addressed.
I also own a Pulsar. Several years back, I updated my older Zenith to 2.0 there was a large improvement in sound quality. I have never experienced an update that took a step back in sound quality until now. I’m hesitant to update my own unit to a 3. version. I see now there is a version 3.01 and I’m wondering if this issue we experienced was addressed.
I’ve tried 3.0 before (beta testing) and 3.01 after. Go for the latter without hesitation. You can find more infos on the new Innuos Forum
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