5th AudioExotics Super Hi-End Show

[wisnon]

I dont get all the Divin hype!Uber speakers are common.

Tidal/Goldmund/Stenheim/Von Sch/Martens/Perfect 8/Vox Olympian/Genesis/Avante G/Wilson/Magico/etc...

Many giant killers too. Giant killers would be where I would expect extreme hype, like the Tekton who make massive claim and reportedly sound excellent for the money.
Personally, I am even more interested in off beat design like Apogee, certain horns, Heil drivers, Transverse wave drivers like Podium, Unified drivers, Bending wave, Linear Motion Tech, 5 octave drivers, and plasma tweeters.

 

[Mike Lavigne]

I dont get all the Divin hype!Uber speakers are common.

not so much. what is common is seeing attention for uber speakers like 'uber' anything. it's what draws us in to the event. and then it becomes what we talk about so it's present constantly, which is different that actually physically encountering the speaker.

actual 'uber' speakers present in real world systems is un-common. and maybe it depends on how we define 'uber'.

Tidal/Goldmund/Stenheim/Von Sch/Martens/Perfect 8/Vox Olympian/Genesis/Avante G/Wilson/Magico/etc...

Many giant killers too. Giant killers would be where I would expect extreme hype, like the Tekton who make massive claim and reportedly sound excellent for the money.

we see that proper care and feeding of moderate level designs can be very satisfying. but we do run into limits of what the speaker can tell us about what better and better gear and rooms can deliver. your list above of 'uber' brands do need exceptional set-up and tweaking to earn their keep. but the ceiling does go much higher.

Personally, I am even more interested in f beat design like Apogee, certain horns, Heil drivers, Transverse wave drivers like Podium, Unified drivers, Bending wave, Linear Motion Tech, 5 octave drivers, and plasma tweeters.

I think you are attracted to designs that make small spaces big sounding. make rooms disappear. it's a completely satisfying picture, if not the whole picture, but great when it happens. and it does transport you.

 

[wisnon]

we see that proper care and feeding of moderate level designs can be very satisfying. but we do run into limits of what the speaker can tell us about what better and better gear and rooms can deliver. your list above of 'uber' brands do need exceptional set-up and tweaking to earn their keep. but the ceiling does go much higher.

Maybe I am luckier than most. Recall where I live...LoL

I have heard the EA MM3s several times, Genesis and IRS-V a few times, The Stenheim Ref Statement for a whole afternoon, The Goldmund Apologue and Anatta (Super easy to set up due to DSP/DRC), and I hope to hear the L'Assolutas soon enough. At shows I have heard the Lansches, The AG Trio, the huge Fischer und Fischer Granite speakers, Baches and Muller flagship, the top LumenWhites, Top MBL, full press demo for a complete FM Acoustics setup, Complete Audio Tekne setup, the largest Sonus speakers, The largest Wilsons and a few others. I dd manage to miss the ML Neoliths and the Vox Olympian...sigh.

Point is, I heard enough of the uber highend outside of shows to have a good understanding of what's possible. To go even higher, I think we may need to explore off beat tech even more!

Imagine well implemented uber speaker with giant Heil drivers in a line array and a corona super tweeter mated to manger bending wave driver and Ripole bass towers and a separate transverse wave Podium speaker style tower (ribbons matched to exciters)? All implemented in active config and with an arc like geometry? That could potentially raise the bar while going via the road least travelled!

 

[Mike Lavigne]

Maybe I am luckier than most. Recall where I live...LoL

I have heard the EA MM3s several times, Genesis and IRS-V a few times, The Stenheim Ref Statement for a whole afternoon, The Goldmund Apologue and Anatta (Super easy to set up due to DSP/DRC), and I hope to hear the L'Assolutas soon enough. At shows I have heard the Lansches, The AG Trio, the huge Fischer und Fischer Granite speakers, Baches and Muller flagship, the top LumenWhites, Top MBL, full press demo for a complete FM Acoustics setup, Complete Audio Tekne setup, the largest Sonus speakers, The largest Wilsons and a few others. I dd manage to miss the ML Neoliths and the Vox Olympian...sigh.

sure; but as a slice of somewhat serious 2 channel audio those systems are scarce, and many are at shows or are reviewers, or dealers or manufacturers.....which don't count. and let's face it, you are not the normal guy as far as seeking the finest systems......you are at the far end of the bell curve. so your generalization that these 'uber' speakers are common is very, very, uncommon.

Point is, I heard enough of the uber highend outside of shows to have a good understanding of what's possible. To go even higher, I think we may need to explore off beat tech even more!

Imagine well implemented uber speaker with giant Heil drivers in a line array and a corona super tweeter mated to manger bending wave driver and Ripole bass towers and a separate transverse wave Podium speaker style tower (ribbons matched to exciters)? All implemented in active config and with an arc like geometry? That could potentially raise the bar while going via the road least travelled!

it's easy to see that almost all 'uber' speaker systems are traditional dynamic cone affairs, since that is what 'uber' customers seem to prefer.

and the risk to build an 'off beat' one so far has been too great for it to have happened (horns and MBL's the exceptions maybe).

 

[wisnon]

All true...but you can see why the Divin overhype is just a yawnfest for me.

 

[Believe High Fidelity]

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Are you sure that wasn't the Etsuro Urushi Bordeaux Jazz? I was informed they were trying to release the newest flagship model at the AE show, but guess that didn't happen.

Also thought the Davinci TT used the Bordeaux as well.

 

[Stereophonic]

Already available:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?sns=em&v=pxvaiYNKFJw

 

[LL21]

Spirit , AC ... Here you go .

The rooms in descending order of preference...

...The Third room was the Wadax /Zanden /Gobel room . While it had immense heroic potential , it only offered a glimpse of its grandstanding capabilities . For me it didn't come together, to be aurally convincing as a whole . I put this down to maybe a learning curve for AE on how to make the DIVIN sing , it being new to their stable . Figuring out the correct amp - speaker interface along with cable voicing and other such finer points . Given the above , I would like to reserve judgement on the DIVIN , until I hear it hopefully at a later date....

Hey Jazzhead,...have you heard the Goebel Divin since?

 

[LL21]

Spirit , AC ... Here you go .

The rooms in descending order of preference...

...The Third room was the Wadax /Zanden /Gobel room . While it had immense heroic potential , it only offered a glimpse of its grandstanding capabilities . For me it didn't come together, to be aurally convincing as a whole . I put this down to maybe a learning curve for AE on how to make the DIVIN sing , it being new to their stable . Figuring out the correct amp - speaker interface along with cable voicing and other such finer points . Given the above , I would like to reserve judgement on the DIVIN , until I hear it hopefully at a later date....

Hey Jazzhead...have you heard the Goebel Divin since?