Yes I now recall only 50 motors. I hope you guys that have the opportunity to hear one will report back to us.
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I wonder if aesthetics have an effect on the sales of the AF2. One does not read much about that turntable.
The motor can be found in Europe in several tape recorders - considering the price of the turntable, the manufacturer can afford to buy the machines just for the motor!
I have once seen one in an auction of the french eBay - still regret not having bought it, I could proudly write in my WBF signature - owner of the AS2000/AF0 synchronous motor!
Very industrial looking design, i quite like it! Although I would question a belt drive at that price level...and I am a BIG fan of belt drives. Direct drive would seem more the way to go, IMO.
Dave, have you ever seen a direct drive table with such a massive platter? I am curious why I've not seen such designs. I think this belt is non-compliant, just like on the AS2000, so belt creep should be minimal. Are you suggesting that the speed would be more stable and accurate if it were direct drive?
Peter, that is exactly what I am suggesting. Personally, I am VERY cognizant of any speed inaccuracies, as such any belt creep would be a non-starter for me. YMMV.
The question would also arise is whether one needs such a massive platter if a direct drive was being utilized?
The question would also arise is whether one needs such a massive platter if a direct drive was being utilized?
As TLi and David said this is a pic of the working prototype.
Marc what you're seeing is 2 out of the 3 plinth layers. I would stop complaining. What you are looking at is essentially your amps still in bread board form. That's not to say you or I would like the finished look but the fact is that it IS unfinnished. Hey, I don't like and never liked the Veyron's scarab looking carapace but do realize that it's bulk was required in order to provide driver and passenger comfort as opposed to the feline lines of say the Agera RS1. I also hate the looks of the McLaren long tail and frankly think the Zonda much more handsome than its flap waving successor. I do appreciate that the tail and the flaps are borne of function regardless and that the long tail is the fastest Mclaren in a straight line and the Huwayra the better handling Paganni.
What I do hope is that in the end they keep the reach to the arms short. It would be a shame if the size of the table would require the owners to have NBA wing spans. Depths of over 20" begin to be problematic for rear arm access.
Marc what you're seeing is 2 out of the 3 plinth layers. I would stop complaining. What you are looking at is essentially your amps still in bread board form. That's not to say you or I would like the finished look but the fact is that it IS unfinnished. Hey, I don't like and never liked the Veyron's scarab looking carapace but do realize that it's bulk was required in order to provide driver and passenger comfort as opposed to the feline lines of say the Agera RS1. I also hate the looks of the McLaren long tail and frankly think the Zonda much more handsome than its flap waving successor. I do appreciate that the tail and the flaps are borne of function regardless and that the long tail is the fastest Mclaren in a straight line and the Huwayra the better handling Paganni.
What I do hope is that in the end they keep the reach to the arms short. It would be a shame if the size of the table would require the owners to have NBA wing spans. Depths of over 20" begin to be problematic for rear arm access.
I suspect it depends on the design and implementation of the drive system in a direct drive. I'm not a physicist, so free to speculate that a highly accurate turntable can be built that does not rely on mass and inertia.
While a large chunk of metal may have damping properties that are frequency tuneable based on metal(s) and/or structure, other means (different materials) can yield equal effectiveness to keep vibration away from the record. But there a different controller mechanism could be required, one that gives feedback about platter speed, rather than relying primarily on the motor and inertia. The same approach could happen with a high mass platter, but I bet the motor would be different in order to control that mass. Speculation on my part.
Rather than adapt existing motors to specifications, or adapt design to existing motors, I wonder how many TT manufacturers build their own motor?
They might have to design the integrated stand for the whole AF0 to rest upon. A multi-arm tt this size will be better off stand alone with accessibility to all four sides imo.
Kind regards,
Tang
I received an invitation to attend the official launch event of Air Force Zero on 16 March 2019, in Tokyo International Forum. I shall be there, hope I can report some findings here.
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