Air Force Zero PRICE
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My point is simply that these development costs are spread out per unit built and sold. That also addresses Jeff's reply. In auto land 5000 units is considered a failure. In audio land, that is a miracle. Mark-up percentage always decreases with volume. The companies are not trying to keep prices low out of the goodness of their hearts, they are trying to optimize turnover and cashflow, thus sustainable profit. Even in car land we see cases where cars are priced ABOVE sticker if there is particularly strong demand for cars of limited availability.
I also agree with Micro about masterpieces. Only time will tell if any of these halo products will actually be appreciated and maybe later appreciate in value. If we could predict what would become "masterpieces" in time, boy, we could all afford stuff like these. It is also IMO an irrational market where just a handful of competing buyers made a Basquiat more expensive than a Van Gogh or Wu Tang Clan more expensive than the White Album owned by Ringo (or was it George?). What does remain fairly constant is that the limitations in supply are a driving factor of price not just at launch but also in the secondary or tertiary markets. It is also not limited to high ticket items. Ask anybody looking for a 16ohm original LS3/5a in mint condition or NOS tubes that could have been had for cents half a century ago.
I'm not saying I like it, I'm just saying how it is. I just don't see it as being harmful to me or anybody else for as long as there is stuff in my price bracket that can satisfy me. It's not like some super wheat or super rice that somehow decimates crops and can only be afforded by the 1%. The first thing I wager would happen is the 1% getting lynched. There simply are no humanitarian consequences. Besides, many of the features tend to eventually trickle down by design or say when patents lapse. Case in point is the matrix structures by B&W.
I also take the same attitude towards first or business class passengers who pay double or triple of coach. They get a bit more comfort, some so-so wine, meals that are usually just edible, get out of the plane and get their baggage early but hey, they subsidize my coach ticket. More power to ya while I enjoy the sandwich I made at home. I make good sandwiches
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True, although most car dealers make much of their money on service and repairs.
I cann say with all honesty that it didn't bother me
I already had my AF1P. Jim wanted it and bought it. I've been happy with my original AF1 since then. It's still the same table. Profit went to more carts and LPs. 
Just saw a leaked photo of AF0. It is a massive angry Hulk AF3 with the motor revealed before. The platter seems thicker than AS with different layers of materials. The whole platter, plinth, motor stand on a huge somewhat integrated three inches thick platform. The whole thing should be heavier than the AS if it is crafted out of billet. Super heavy mass seems to be the design philosophy. Hope they dont put fuzzy electronics into the design.
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It is very interesting that some of David’s design philosophy seems to have seeped into the thinking about the Air Force Zero.
I think David actually discussed his ideas with TechDAS for both the AF3 and AF0, neither of which has suspension.
Is it just me, or does that look like three designers were involved, none of whom talked to the others.
I'm sorry, but visually, that's a miss
IMHO, YMMV, YYY (Yada Yada Yada).
I'm sorry, but visually, that's a miss
IMHO, YMMV, YYY (Yada Yada Yada).
You can place your order, they will probably add a fourth designer to get a visual aspect that will please you.
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