Please re-read my post. I did not write that sarcasm per se violates the Terms of Service.
Alexx V arrive in NJ
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Please re-read my post. I did not write that sarcasm per se violates the Terms of Service.
Hi Stirling!
Welcome to WBF!
Thank you for your understandable and experience-based post!
Of course, thank you. The JC-1+ is an excellent amplifier. I apologize if my comment wasn't clear. I was not commenting on the quality of the amplifier, but rather the operational characteristics between amplifiers.
As more and more post's get delete to placate reviewers, advertisers and manufacturers, the buying customers taper away and stop posting. Who is left to be influenced ? Is a forum where every thread is about a "revolutionary new product" posted by a dealer or manufacturer interesting ?
Please feel free to start a new thread and post publicly, or to write to me privately, about the posts which were deleted but which you feel did not violate the Terms of Service -- meaning the posts you feel were improperly deleted to "placate reviwers, advertisers and manufactuers."
I am open-minded and happy to be persuaded that I deleted improperly or unfairly a post which did not qualify as not "cordial" or which was not "political."
Forgive me, but I am not following you. There have been no changes.
These Terms of Service have been in effect since something like 2010.
The practice of repositioning speakers to compare amplifiers is so flawed that I will go as far as to state that repositioning the speakers disqualifies any comparison of the amplifiers. After all it’s simply physics……for the reasons that you stated in your previous post.
This disclosure certainly puts the reviewer in new light.
Oh my, Carlos, you are really not getting this...
If you don't move the speakers, you'll never know whether the amp driving them has an issue or not. Maybe you move them and things get worse (ergo. the amp sucks) or maybe you move them and things lock in - in which case the amp needed the positional adjustment. Maybe you should try it? I've had no problem demonstrating this both to visiting manufacturers and members of the public in show presentations.
If you don't move the speakers, you'll never know whether the amp driving them has an issue or not. Maybe you move them and things get worse (ergo. the amp sucks) or maybe you move them and things lock in - in which case the amp needed the positional adjustment. Maybe you should try it? I've had no problem demonstrating this both to visiting manufacturers and members of the public in show presentations.
maybe because the Alexx v were positioned carefully with the JC-1+ originally and not moved at all from that position with the M10 ? I did not pick up this if its the case, maybe Marty would reply to this ?
If i understand marty correctly , I think in this case ( CH ) its just the amp having not enough control over the alexx woofers causing the bass to be sounding underwhelmed / uncontrolled giving a mid / high freq tipped up balance
Repositioning the speakers simply invalidates the comparison of the amplifiers. This is not about optimizing the speaker placement for the amplifier. Your stated theory was that to compare the amplifiers you had to reposition them. Do I need to go any further?
Maybe I’m wrong but I can’t find my post here. maybe I never hit the post button. and if your saying nothing was changed that is very kid of you to reply
and I’ll edit my post now
ty
Carlos, I think you are making the classic and common mistake of assuming that your subjective view is objective fact. Try to exercise a modicum of introspection, and process that your view that "[t]he practice of repositioning speakers to compare amplifiers is . . . flawed" is your personal, subjective opinion -- not in any way objective fact or a law of nature or of science.
Now I understand, thank you.
Yes, I deleted here your earlier post correctly criticizing the "flamers." As I deleted the "flamer" posts to which you referred because they violated the Terms of Service I also deleted your post criticizing them, as I felt it was then confusing because no one would be able to see the "flamer" posts to which you were referring.
I explained this in the comment section of the notice you should have received notifying you about my deletion of your post.
Stating that repositioning of speakers to compare amplifiers in a “controlled” setting, where everything else except the amplifiers is the same, is flawed and invalides any results or conclusions, is not an opinion or subjective, it is a fact. This is basic, an objective fact & a law of science.
I don't think we can make any more analytical progress here. We are going to have to agree to disagree.
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Dear Ron,
I understand the IYO part but I’m not the only one here who thinks it’s gone too far.
david
there are tons of amps that have no problems with a load, the problem is to find the one that corresponds to your ideal sound with speakers
I respect your opinion. But WBF simply is not the place for politics or for political innuendo.
I can see your point, but I'm not clear how it applies to a music system, which operates more like an ecosystem than a controlled setting. From my perspective, for whatever that's worth, I'm not in the business of comparing amplifiers in a controlled setting. My clients hire me to configure and set up their existing audio systems. Sometimes that means coming back to a system I've already set up to integrate a new component into that system. I am not there to compare one component to another, just to integrate their new component(s). That invariably requires some degree of position or attitude change in the loudspeakers. Please do not take my comment as trolling for business. I merely wanted to illustrate my point.