Amplification options with TAD speakers

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My Constellation Centaur Mono’s just came back from the factory, refurbished and updated to latest spec. Berkeley Reference DAC also updated to Series 2 MQA. Combination with the R1s is outstanding. Very detailed, incredible texture/color to the sound. No harshness at all. Micro dynamics and scale.
Congratulations - the latest Centaur's are really impressive amplifiers, the improvements were considerable. I was not aware that old models can be upgraded - great news for users.
 

PGA

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To be clear, these are still Centaur amps, not Centaur 2s. I was told there were some changes over the years to the Centaur, and this is what was updated. The 2s are in a larger case.
 
Apr 26, 2012
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I've recently listened the system Tad/Burmester of my dearest friend in Italy. The system is the following:

- TAD Evolution One
- Burmester 911 Mk3 power amp
- Burmester 077 preamp (integrated version)
- Burmester 948 power conditioner
- Burmester 089 cd player
- Burmester 100 phono preamp
- Turntable Delphi V
- Cables: Cardas Beyond/Nordost Valhalla
- Rack Burmester
- Fine Tuning: Taoc

The sound was superbly amazing. Particularly the precise soundstage, linearity, phase-coherence with a totally natural reproduction, highly powerful resolution, tonal correctness. Great sinergy.

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Feb 19, 2013
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The BHK 300 Mono blocks from ps audio are excellent on my Cr-1's. The best I have ever heard any TAD's sound, especially with NOS tubes in the front end of this hybrid amp. I imagine the BHK 250 stereo would also work extremely well for a more budget conscious set up. The tube input stage really allows this amp to sing and sounded better than the solid state input stage they prototyped.

Having owned these speakers for over 6 years I feel like they were ahead of their time in a sense, while electronics (at least on the amplifier and digital front) had to evolve to allow the CR1'S to perform closer to their potential.

Incidentally I am extending the range of my CR1'S with a pair of servo subs on the bottom and stat super tweeters.

I know common wisdom says that the R 1 is better, but I wonder if anyone has compared an R1 with a Cr1 and an excellent pair of subs?

I love having the ability to tailor how much bass and what slope it comes in at via remote control. It seems bass is highly variable in mix and mastering suites and taste of course. Mine come in at 40 hz and below, with the CR1'S being driven full range.
 
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Incidentally I am extending the range of my CR1'S with a pair of servo subs on the bottom and stat super tweeters.

I know common wisdom says that the R 1 is better, but I wonder if anyone has compared an R1 with a Cr1 and an excellent pair of subs?

I love having the ability to tailor how much bass and what slope it comes in at via remote control. It seems bass is highly variable in mix and mastering suites and taste of course. Mine come in at 40 hz and below, with the CR1'S being driven full range.
I have had TAD CR1's with 2 subs for 2 years. The CR1's played full range and the 2 subs with dsp till 38hz@60db/oct. I have tried the Ref One's for 3 week asside but couldn't get the sound right, to much bass in me room. And mids and highs were not better in my situation.
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The BHK 300 Mono blocks from ps audio are excellent on my Cr-1's. The best I have ever heard any TAD's sound, especially with NOS tubes in the front end of this hybrid amp. I imagine the BHK 250 stereo would also work extremely well for a more budget conscious set up. The tube input stage really allows this amp to sing and sounded better than the solid state input stage they prototyped.

Having owned these speakers for over 6 years I feel like they were ahead of their time in a sense, while electronics (at least on the amplifier and digital front) had to evolve to allow the CR1'S to perform closer to their potential.

Incidentally I am extending the range of my CR1'S with a pair of servo subs on the bottom and stat super tweeters.

I know common wisdom says that the R 1 is better, but I wonder if anyone has compared an R1 with a Cr1 and an excellent pair of subs?

I love having the ability to tailor how much bass and what slope it comes in at via remote control. It seems bass is highly variable in mix and mastering suites and taste of course. Mine come in at 40 hz and below, with the CR1'S being driven full range.
Very nice setup and room! What is the material/those panels on the side and rear-side walls?

What sub(s) were you trying to blend in with the R1s?
 
As I mentioned some time ago on this thread, the Esoteric A-02 Stereo amp has the power into 8, 4 and 2 ohms and the damping factor (a very impressive 1000) to
both drive and control with a rock-solid grip, the TAD R1 Mk2s here in my system. I recently heard the Esoteric S1 stereo amp and had extended listening with the
Grandioso M1 mono-blocks and they also clearly drive the R1s (and CR1s) as they need to be driving without harsh edges or lack of dynamics or control. I also
had the good fortune to hear the latest Bryston top of the line mono-blocks also in-person drive a pair of R1s with extremely impressive results. Add all these
amps to the list capable of proper pairing with the TAD R1 or CR1s. From past listening experience Burmester 911 stereo amps and of course their big 909
monos also accomplish the task easily....

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ozy

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"Yes I have the Air Tight ATM 3011R monos (220 watts per channel) driving them and they have never sounded better. A spacious and textured quality that wasn’t there before."
thank you ,that's what I thought.... are you also using Air Tight 's preamp?
 
Nov 27, 2016
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Last week i got a CAT JL5 and it is perfect for my TAD CR1! It performs much better than my TAD 2500 mk 2 !
I was already about to sell my TADs but with the CAT it is heaven: explosive dynamics, really nice mids and pleasent treble
 
CAT is high quality amplification for sure; great suggestion! I've said it before but will again (to the OP); if you can find one the Esoteric A-02 is also a perfect mate for the TAD R1s (and CR-1s)...
 

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