Aries Cerat Introduces Pallas Horn Loudspeaker
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Have a look here:
https://www.whatsbestforum.com/thre...marriott-the-final-chapter.40231/post-1053167
and here:
https://www.whatsbestforum.com/thre...marriott-the-final-chapter.40231/post-1051971
It is in that Munich 2025 thread that you will find some opinions (all positive, in various degree from very good to outstanding).
(I was not in Munich)
https://www.whatsbestforum.com/thre...marriott-the-final-chapter.40231/post-1053167
and here:
https://www.whatsbestforum.com/thre...marriott-the-final-chapter.40231/post-1051971
It is in that Munich 2025 thread that you will find some opinions (all positive, in various degree from very good to outstanding).
(I was not in Munich)
I was in the room, sat in the sweet spot. Better than last year’s setup, but that’s not a difficult task. Not for me.
From memory, I just did not find the sound it made very coherent. I find it all show and no substance, i like systems to just get on with presenting the music and not draw attention to itself, everything from this system just sounded larger than life. I know some people like that, but not me.
No, I wasn't. I was just curious about opinions. If someone is a dissenting voice and explains why, as you did, I am also interested. Perhaps I will hear the speakers next year in Vienna.
[please forgive my poor English]
Interesting. I wish I was in Munich this year...
- coherence. My previous experience with the fantastic Aries Cerat Symphonia horn speakers (in an full AC system) was:
1) genuine realism 2) incredible timbres 3) coherence 4) dynamics and transparency+++
I shortly reported about that stunning discovery here: https://www.whatsbestforum.com/threads/aries-cerat-symphonia-review.33417/post-740962
It also depends on what we mean by "coherence": is it coherence of the stereo image? (then it is related to the "larger than life" perceived aspect). Or is it inner coherence of (the whole spectrum of) the sound itself? (isn't it then more related to the speakers's harmonic distortion, and its linearity ?).
The cherry on the cake: that AC system was all substance and no show. Moreover, especially with AC electronics, all my audiophile buddies generally report how material the sound is (whatever the speakers they try), with reproduced musicians made of flesh and blood, as if they were in front of them. Sometimes uncannily there. It is maybe that aspect that can be mistaken for show (my lovely pair of Harbeth M30.2 Anniversary, in a second system, are coherent speakers indeed, I like them, but I know i am by no means at risk of facing the real thing with them).
- regarding a "larger than life" image, I don't like that either. And the aforementioned AC system I heard attentively several times presents music on a credible, non-exagerated scale. But it is quite possible that under show conditions, the exhibitors have to setup the system to spread music for a large audience, especially in such a huge room. Exact scale and no larger than life presentation is a matter of speaker positioning anyway (most of the times, at least; there are exceptions, as we all know).
Since I attend many live unamplified concerts, such a system instantly pluck the strings of my heart. Especially as I am used to go in outstanding contemporary concert halls (where all acoustic parameters are usually well controlled, from design to construction). Then I am stunned or even speechless when I hear such a system's sheer realism: it totally un-veils instruments and musicians, which remains perfectly natural and full-bodied, life-like, and without any artificial glitter.
So, I think it remains possible that, without having heard a full AC system properly setup (which is probably not easy), one may feel some "show", like the moment when I attended a concert for the first time in an outstanding hall where the instruments, their timbres, are revealed like nowhere else I know (here is an example of such a concert hall, near Brussels - Tomorrow, I will be in the Antwerpen concert hall on a very good seat: Janine Jansen, violin, Mendelssohn concerto; she plays with the Stradivarius which belonged to Nathan Milstein, one of a kind)
When I come across such incredible hi-fi systems, I sometimes wonder: if I were blindfolded and made to listen to real musicians but made to believe that it was a hi-fi system playing, would I find that the "system" was putting on a show ?
I think it is a matter of expectations towards the system, and these expectations are forged by previous exposure to live, or its absence (or less frequently exposed, or rarely, or in bad conditions).
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orfeo_monteverdi, you are correct a show environment is not the best place to listen to anything but you can usually get an idea if what you are hearing is worth investigating. Last year’s system was so bad, but I gave them benefit of the doubt that I came back the following day. It had improved by the following day, but it was still a pile of dog do do, this year I came with no expectations and was mildly surprised as this years system sounded better at a lower price. Overall, I still was not impressed at what was on show.
Not sure if you was there last year and heard the system, if you were there and heard it and depending on what you think of last years system would give you a good idea, if what I am saying about this years system is true or not.
What I am saying is dependent on my ears, some people did like last year’s system. We all like different sounds, I am not impressed by price or size or hype only impressed by what I hear.
Not sure if you was there last year and heard the system, if you were there and heard it and depending on what you think of last years system would give you a good idea, if what I am saying about this years system is true or not.
What I am saying is dependent on my ears, some people did like last year’s system. We all like different sounds, I am not impressed by price or size or hype only impressed by what I hear.
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