Can one find realism in box speakers that cost less than $150K after experiencing dynamics of horns and horn-type speakers?

I have heard these at his place, shouty like hell. Would like to hear them in another set up

A jazz saxophoniste, trumpetist, trombone player, ...some of them are hot smoky shouty sexy...the sound, from a lounge jazz smoking cabaret after midnight.

Listen to the sax, "shouty" good.
 
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A jazz saxophoniste, trumpetist, trombone player, ...some of them are hot smoky shouty sexy...the sound, from a lounge jazz smoking cabaret after midnight.

The General is a very big fan of these too, Northstar.
 
Yes, those were the ones I heard at RMAF. However, the reviewer is even more crazy about the larger, $70K Zellaton model.

Thanks.
 
A jazz saxophoniste, trumpetist, trombone player, ...some of them are hot smoky shouty sexy...the sound, from a lounge jazz smoking cabaret after midnight.

Listen to the sax, "shouty" good.

I am not referring to jazz as shouty
 
Sure. If you can arrange for 4 to 5 amps to be heard on them. Then one day I might visit Phil.

I'm sure visiting him will be very informative. I learn a boat load from reading his posts. But if you are going to 30-50 classical concerts a year, I think your time would be better spent hearing some Magnepan 30.7s. I really love Zu for what they do, but I don't think hard core classical guys are their target market or ultimate objective.
 
Ron, if all one cares about is vocals it's kind of hard to beat stats. The best out there for that I've heard is Soundlab with Atmasphere MA2 OTLs. A cheaper alternative is to find an old martin logan aerius that retailed for under $2K with a tube amp, and combo would kill the vast majority of box speakers out there in current production.

I agree on Soundlab with Atmasphere MA2 OTLs - if the vocals do not go along with instruments with low or heavy bass.

I think you are too optimist about the Aerius. Great for the price, I owned more than one pair - a few weeks ago I found a box with a few still sealed replacement panels in my garage - but IMHO the Prodigy or the Odyssey were significantly better on vocals.

And a properly amplified old Wilson, such as the system 7 or MAXX3 , in an appropriate space, will shine on vocals concerning realism. Yes, I know, YMMV ...
 
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I am not referring to jazz as shouty
I know that. I simply mentioned the qualitative term of "shouty" ... just a very quick example.
And Micro was referring specifically to jazz music from them speakers.

I have read that Herve Deltraz listened to them at excessively loud volumes, almost insane. But discussions on Redheko's are extremely polarized - some people tell they are the absolute best in the world, others hate them.
 
Paul Messenger's spkrs of choice. My friendly Entreq dealer who knows my sound really well, has owned Redekos, and loved what they did, hears some of their magic in my Zu sound.
 
(...) If I want to construct another system from scratch right now, it will take no more than one fourth of what I have been spending in audio gears for the last three years. And the sound will be no less good than what I have right now. For less than $100,000 you can even get the vintage horns system with the required amplifications with potential to be one of the best if you know who to talk to.

Tang :)

Can you give us more details on such system? What vintage horn system are you referring to?
 
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Can you give us more details on such system? What vintage horn system are you referring to?
These horns are very rare as is. If I have them in my possession I will tell. I hope you understand ;). All these horns need custom work. Not a plug and play. So as those Tannoys Ked talked about.

Kindest regards,
Tang
 
These horns are very rare as is. If I have them in my possession I will tell. I hope you understand ;). All these horns need custom work. Not a plug and play. So as those Tannoys Ked talked about.

Kindest regards,
Tang

When Cheung gets his WE to Munich there is a an army supporting them, tweaking around with them, the power supplies, etc.. And while the most magical, even the biggest there are seldom full range. You will need two speaker systems for sure, one vintage one modern
 
Well how about the electronics you'd choose?
The Lamms are said to be synergistic to one of the two pairs. While the other pair already come with tri-amps I think.

Tang
 
Agreed. I guess I seldom hear the jump factor that i covet from box speakers where I always hear it with horns. Two box speakers I would own that deliver the jump are the Harbeth 40's and Devore Orangutan.

If Harbeths and Orangutan have "jump factor" then I guess I don't know what the term means. There aren't many speakers I'd characterize as more laid back, mellow, polite, unfatguing, etc than these two. From 40.1 to 40.2, Harbeth took a step in the direction of what I'd call more "jump factor". But they don't seem willing to go very far in that direction.
 

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