ChatGPT on Audiophile

[Ron Resnick]

Ron, can you dig in an probe its answers. Ask follow up questions. Something aling the lines of. What amp is the best match based on its electrical characteristics. Get an answer. Then ask it validate say a tube amp will work and prove it. Then maybe which model in a manufacture lineup is optimum.

I did some of that yesterday.

I asked it some questions in other areas, and it made some statements as facts which are unequivocally, provably false. The biases of its programmers are very clear. We cannot expect anything intellectually honest to come from big tech. This AI has not advanced beyond "garbage in, garbage out."

I'm over it. You should sign up for it yourself -- this requires only an email address and a password.

Let us know how it goes . . .

 

[Kingrex]

I did some of that yesterday.

I asked it some questions in other areas, and it made some statements as facts which are unequivocally provably false. The bias of its programmers is clear. This AI has not advanced beyond "garbage in, garbage out."

I'm over it, at least for now. You should sign up for it yourself -- this requires only an email address and a password.

Let us know how it goes . . .

I wonder if you can ask it "why" it gave an answer. To validate its sources. Heck, that was Journalism 101. The professor was more interested in where you got your information than what you actually found. An AI may be the worst form of research in you might have 0 idea how it derived an answer. How and where it weighted it response.

 

[PYP]

I wonder if you can ask it "why" it gave an answer. To validate its sources. Heck, that was Journalism 101. The professor was more interested in where you got your information than what you actually found. An AI may be the worst form of research in you might have 0 idea how it derived an answer. How and where it weighted it response.

The bot doesn't know how it derived an answer and neither do the programmers. Really.

 

[Kingrex]

The bot doesn't know how it derived an answer and neither do the programmers. Really.

I don't buy that. It sourced data and weighted it.

 

[PYP]

I don't buy that. It sourced data and weighted it.

This is a really good explanation of how the AI bots work. Recommended viewing for all on this thread who are not already familiar with this subject.

 

[Kingrex]

It says the bot only works with data it its given. Its a big sorting machine. If you are saying the video is incorrect and the bot is not longer sorting, it is creating information, then that is new to me. This video is not much different than one I watched on how AI looks at roads when it comes to driverless cars. It does not see humans, signs, cars etc. It sees piles of blocks that are color coded. The color coding based upon millions of past experiences with the object.

 

[PeterA]

But perhaps Chat Gpt can recommend some speakers for the Lamm ML3 ...

You don’t need a machine to tell you that. Just ask Tang, Steve, and ddk. Tima and I could tell you too. I know of seven speakers but then you might be haunted by natural sound.

 

[Ron Resnick]

You don’t need a machine to tell you that. Just ask Tang, Steve, and ddk. Tima and I could tell you too. I know of seven speakers but then you might be haunted by natural sound.

Geez, you can even lower your standards and ask me!

For an appropriate speaker the ML3 is as good as it gets!

 

[PeterA]

Geez, you can even lower your standards and ask me!

For an appropriate speaker the ML3 is as good as it gets!

Francisco realizes those amplifiers are amazing. He just doesn’t know what speakers to get for them.

 

[Kingrex]

I really wonder where AI will be used. Autonomous cars would not run without them. But will they help with say, finding a way to split a water molecule in a hydrogen and oxygen molecule to use as fuel. In an energy efficient manner. Sure we can split it many different ways, but the input power is extremely high.

 

[Ron Resnick]

Question: What is whatsbestforum.com?

Answer:


WhatsBestForum.com is an online community forum dedicated to discussions about high-end audio equipment and related topics. The forum was established in 2009 and has become a popular destination for audiophiles to share information, opinions, and experiences about speakers, amplifiers, turntables, headphones, and other audio equipment.

The forum covers a wide range of topics, including reviews of equipment, technical discussions about audio engineering and acoustics, and discussions about music and artists. Members of the forum also organize local meetups and attend industry events to connect with other audiophiles and learn about the latest advancements in high-end audio technology.

Overall, WhatsBestForum.com provides a valuable resource for audiophiles to connect, share information, and stay up-to-date on the latest developments in high-quality audio equipment.

 

[tima]

But perhaps Chat Gpt can recommend some speakers for the Lamm ML3 ...

Heh - perhaps they it can recommend a buyer for yours!

 

[Ron Resnick]

But perhaps Chat Gpt can recommend some speakers for the Lamm ML3 ...

Question: What loudspeakers do you recommend to be matched with Lamm ML3 amplifiers?

Answer:


Lamm ML3 amplifiers are known for their high power and ability to drive a wide range of loudspeakers, so you have many options when it comes to selecting loudspeakers to match with these amps.

When selecting loudspeakers to match with Lamm ML3 amplifiers, it's important to consider factors such as impedance, sensitivity, and overall sound quality. Some loudspeakers that are known to work well with Lamm ML3 amplifiers include:

1. Wilson Audio Sasha DAW: These loudspeakers are known for their exceptional sound quality, with a balanced and neutral sound that is well-suited to the Lamm ML3 amps.
2. Magico S5 Mk II: These loudspeakers are known for their high sensitivity and low distortion, making them a good match for the high power output of the Lamm ML3 amps.
3. Focal Scala Utopia EVO: These loudspeakers are known for their detailed and dynamic sound, and their relatively high sensitivity makes them a good match for the Lamm ML3 amps.
4. Sonus Faber Aida: These loudspeakers are known for their warm and musical sound, and their relatively high sensitivity makes them a good match for the Lamm ML3 amps.

Of course, there are many other loudspeakers that can work well with Lamm ML3 amplifiers, so it's important to audition different speakers and find the one that best suits your personal taste and listening preferences.


Question: Are you sure you understand these amplifiers? Lamm ML3 amplifiers are 32 watt single ended triode tube amplifiers.


Answer:

You are correct, I apologize for the mistake in my previous response. Lamm ML3 amplifiers are indeed single-ended triode tube amplifiers, with an output power of 32 watts per channel.

When it comes to selecting loudspeakers to match with Lamm ML3 amplifiers, it's important to choose speakers that have a high sensitivity and an impedance that is compatible with the amplifier. Some speakers that are known to work well with single-ended triode tube amplifiers like the Lamm ML3 include:

1. Lowther DX4: These speakers have a high sensitivity and are known for their fast, dynamic sound.
2. Omega Super Alnico Monitors: These speakers have a high sensitivity and a detailed, natural sound that can be a good match for single-ended triode amplifiers.
3. Voxativ Ampeggio: These speakers have a full-range driver and a high sensitivity, and are known for their dynamic and musical sound.
4. Zu Audio Druid V: These speakers have a high sensitivity and are known for their dynamic and engaging sound.

Of course, as with any amplifier and loudspeaker pairing, it's important to audition different speakers and find the ones that best suit your personal taste and listening preferences.

 

[tima]

I started a ChatGTP account.

Question: How do vintage loudspeakers sound?

Answer:

Vintage loudspeakers can have a unique sound that is different from modern speakers. Many people appreciate the sound of vintage loudspeakers because they have a warm, rich, and full-bodied sound that some feel is lacking in modern speakers. However, it's important to keep in mind that not all vintage speakers are created equal and that sound quality can vary greatly depending on the make and model.

Some vintage speakers were designed with specific musical genres in mind and can excel in reproducing certain types of music. For example, some vintage speakers were designed for jazz or classical music, while others were designed for rock or electronic music. It's also worth noting that vintage speakers may have some technical limitations compared to modern speakers, such as lower power handling or less accurate frequency response.

Ultimately, the sound of vintage loudspeakers is a matter of personal preference, and what sounds great to one person may not be appealing to another. If you're interested in purchasing vintage speakers, it's a good idea to do some research on the specific make and model and try to listen to them before making a purchase decision.

Proving once again that just because you can write an English language sentence doesn't mean you know what you're talking about.

 

[tima]

 

[AMR / iFi audio]

me too.

We are only starting to understand the effects of social media, especially on young folks and in countries other than the U.S. We release this stuff thinking it will be beneficial, and it is, but like any tool it must be maintained. Who does that and how? The profit motive complicates how much time and effort is put into preventing misuse.

Well said - social media can be a powerful tool, but it is a double-edged sword, and both edges are very sharp. It's quite alarming how efficient social media content is at developing young minds!

Regarding ChatGPT - some people still can't grasp how powerful a Google search can be, with millions of results on tap whenever you type in a question. Now, ChatGPT takes it to another level with precise answers being handed on a silver platter, and I should hope that the bot remains independent - controlling its outputs as means of pushing propaganda or certain worldviews sounds horrible.

 

[Ron Resnick]

I should hope that the bot remains independent - controlling its outputs as means of pushing propaganda or certain worldviews sounds horrible.

It's clear to me that it is not "independent" now in terms of neutrality or purity of world views. Someone is programming it and, inevitably, the AI will be infused with the personal views and biases of that programmer.

This is why a singular, ubiquitous source of information is antithetical to the concept of the "marketplace of ideas."

 

[PeterA]

It's clear to me that it is not "independent" now in terms of neutrality or purity of world views. Someone is programming it and, inevitably, the AI will be infused with the personal views and biases of that programmer.

This is why a singular, ubiquitous source of information is antithetical to the concept of the "marketplace of ideas."

The examples you have shared with me Ron show a clear bias to the left. The question wasn’t even answered and it was embellished with all sorts of information not relevant to the question asked. This embellishment is where the bias was and it was clearly to promote a specific point of view. Of course it depends on the content of the question and the subject being discussed, but from examples I have seen, this is not a source for any information that I am going to pursue.

Sharing those specific examples here would be a violation of your TOS no politics clause.

 

[picears]

something like ChatGPTwill become, at least informally, the de facto source of information in the world

Well, Microsoft certainly thinks so, which is why they've integrated it into their new Bing.

This gets us back to the topic of audio reviews, biases, etc.

It is quite possible that we're only 5 years out from when determined people rely on something like AI for shopping information, something like Consumer Reports have been since forever.

I really do believe that Audio mags are going to be squeezed even harder with the next generation being more comfortable with using AI than reading magazines.

 

[picears]

The examples you have shared with me Ron show a clear bias to the left.

That came out of... left field.