DartZeel NHB-108 .....

[joeinid]

Okay...i have to ask. (sorry Joe!). Once you;ve allowed everything to burn and settle in...if you are still loving your GAT/108 combo...can you monoblock the 108? Hah!

I would love to add another Dart 108

 

[LL21]

I would love to add another Dart 108

Then i look forward to reading about your impressions when you have!

 

[joeinid]

Then i look forward to reading about your impressions when you have!

Please do not hold your breath This may take me a very long time, but something I look forward to trying. It has crossed my mind many times.

 

[LL21]

Please do not hold your breath This may take me a very long time, but something I look forward to trying. It has crossed my mind many times.

Joe - how else can we get up and check WBF...without hearing about more new adventures from your system growing at a geometric rate?

 

[joeinid]

Joe - how else can we get up and check WBF...without hearing about more new adventures from your system growing at a geometric rate?

I guess my reputation precedes me. Wow! I am happy to provide another point of view on this wonderful forum.

 

[LL21]

Great!

 

[joeinid]

Hi Joe,

I am very excited for you. Please call me if you have any questions at all and be prepared for a fairly long break-in period. YOu should get the clarity right from the beginning, but the bass and body does not show until 500 hours. It is like a light switch goes off and everything changes.

Hi Jonathan,

My brand new Dartzeel NHB-108B amp showed up last night. Holy cow! I love, love, love Dartzeel. Hands down. I have to get the preamp. Just like I see on every pizza box, you've tried the rest. Now try the best. It's true. I will never be without my Dartzeel. Thank you. I was spoiled with my used one being well broken in. My friend needed an amp, loved mine and bought it from me. I took the opportunity to replace it with a brand new unit. I know I am in for a long break in, but I am happy to do it. Thank you !!!!

 

[TheAudioAssociation]

Congrats Joe! Happy listening!

 

[joeinid]

Congrats Joe! Happy listening!

Thanks Eddie,

I know you know what I am experiencing.

 

[Mike Lavigne]

Congrats Joe! Happy listening!

+1.

enjoy the brand new 108; it does take 200-300+ hours to really come into it's own.

 

[joeinid]

+1.

enjoy the brand new 108; it does take 200-300+ hours to really come into it's own.

Thank you Mike!

I've been through a lot of gear. Nothing satisfies like my Dartzeel. I hope to end up with the preamp next year.

 

[TheAudioAssociation]

Thanks Eddie,

I know you know what I am experiencing.

Yes! Enjoying some tunes now..... nothing like it!

 

[Lyubo]

SCNP network

Hi Jonathan,

My brand new Dartzeel NHB-108B amp showed up last night. Holy cow! I love, love, love Dartzeel. Hands down. I have to get the preamp. Just like I see on every pizza box, you've tried the rest. Now try the best. It's true. I will never be without my Dartzeel. Thank you. I was spoiled with my used one being well broken in. My friend needed an amp, loved mine and bought it from me. I took the opportunity to replace it with a brand new unit. I know I am in for a long break in, but I am happy to do it. Thank you !!!!

Hi Joe, The preamp is mandatory - out of the NHB-18NS you can not catch all the magic of the NHB-108B! By the way, is the SCNP network installed in your brand new NHB-108B? This upgrade is available from the end of 2009, but still is not officially announced?

Best regards,
Lyubo

 

[joeinid]

Hi Lyubo,

Yes. It has the latest upgrades and sounds wonderful. I guess I need the preamp then.

 

[microstrip]

Hi Lyubo,

Yes. It has the latest upgrades and sounds wonderful. I guess I need the preamp then.

Joeinid,

IMHO it will depend on your system and preference. I prefer to use the NHB108 with the ARC Reference 40 preamplifier than with its preamplfiier. But my CD player is the ARC CD8 and this surely influences the result. Also we should not forget that the REF40 + REF phono 2 + good quality interconnects are much more expensive than the DartZeel preamplifier.

I agree in one point with you - the DartZeel NHB 108, used within its power limitations, is the best sounding solid state amplifier I have owned.

 

[TheAudioAssociation]

Hi Lyubo,

Yes. It has the latest upgrades and sounds wonderful. I guess I need the preamp then.

+1. Preamp is a must! Synergy is magical...... Especially with the 50 ohm BNC interconnects between the units.

 

[joeinid]

Joeinid,

IMHO it will depend on your system and preference. I prefer to use the NHB108 with the ARC Reference 40 preamplifier than with its preamplfiier. But my CD player is the ARC CD8 and this surely influences the result. Also we should not forget that the REF40 + REF phono 2 + good quality interconnects are much more expensive than the DartZeel preamplifier.

I agree in one point with you - the DartZeel NHB 108, used within its power limitations, is the best sounding solid state amplifier I have owned.

+1

I do have a VAC Sig IIa coming before I finally decided to get the Dartzeel preamp. I always knew I liked my Dartzeel amp above the rest on my TAD CR-1's, but for some reason kept going around trying to find something "better". All I found was something different. Other amps have their strengths, but for me, the Dartzeel fulfills all that I am looking for in an amp.

+1. Preamp is a must! Synergy is magical...... Especially with the 50 ohm BNC interconnects between the units.

I enjoyed my CJ GAT immensely on my Dartzeel amp. My XP-30 works wonderfully with it as well, but I need to compare the RCA vs XLR inputs with the Pass. I suspect the VAC Sig will be as good or better than the CJ GAT, but I still want to hear the Dartzeel 18NS preamp.

 

[still-one]

Hi Jonathan,

My brand new Dartzeel NHB-108B amp showed up last night. Holy cow! I love, love, love Dartzeel. Hands down. I have to get the preamp. Just like I see on every pizza box, you've tried the rest. Now try the best. It's true. I will never be without my Dartzeel. Thank you. I was spoiled with my used one being well broken in. My friend needed an amp, loved mine and bought it from me. I took the opportunity to replace it with a brand new unit. I know I am in for a long break in, but I am happy to do it. Thank you !!!!

Joe
Sorry my friend. I have seen you go thru far too many great pieces of gear to think you will stop at the NHB-108B. Something will come along that will tempt you. You have an acute case of new gear fever. I wish I could keep up with you.

Jim

 

[joeinid]

Joe
Sorry my friend. I have seen you go thru far too many great pieces of gear to think you will stop at the NHB-108B. Something will come along that will tempt you. You have an acute case of new gear fever. I wish I could keep up with you.

Jim

Ha!

Well I have Burmester since 4/2011 and Dartzeel since 2/2012 (only replaced used with new). Other gear has come and gone. Time will tell.

 

[AudioExplorations]

Joe, congrats on the 108B. Are you noticing any difference vs. the 108A even though it is not yet burned in? I guess too early to tell...

If I were you, given your exhaustive search for the ultimate amp for TAD speakers, I would make it a point to audition the TAD M2500 and M600's. These are crafted with the sole purpose to extract the most out of TAD speakers. Seems like these have a pretty darn good shot at outclassing the competition... particularly with the recent user accounts that have come in...