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Now that's hilarious! But why settle for twice a month? I carted you and your wife to dinner at the 2012 RMAF show and back to your hotel, and I would have never guessed at her reticence to be a wind instrument for her husband's pipe.
-- Few points here...
- What is 'live' music?
1. A Rock concert at a large venue with loud an awful sound?
2. ...Or at a smaller venue with not much improved sound quality (echoes, reverberations, over-bloated bass, etc.)?
3. ...Or in a gymnasium, or a stadium, or at an arena? ...Or in a discotheque?
4. A Jazz concert in a small coffee-house, with the kitchen near by?
5. ...Or at a cabaret with people dancing on the lower stage in front of the musicians?
6. ...Or in a small hall at school?
7. A Blues concert at an alley, or in a street alley?
8. ...Or at a club or a tavern or a bar or a lounge?
9. A Classical Orchestral concert in a hall?
10. ...Or outside outdoor under a roof, like a pavilion?
11. ...Or even from a barge on the water, where you stand up across the water on the other side, on the land?
Etc., etc., etc., where from most places the sound is awful anyway. ...And you need to sit in the right row, plus no cell phones ringing or babies crying and people 'barking' and all that noisy jazz that has nothing to do with the concert anyway but it is there because it's live and it's life.
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Live music recorded (from a hall, or live venue like a jazz club, or in a studio), from a microphone, or microphones, and with a mixing/recording console, and with EQs, dynamic compressors, enhancers, sustain effects, echo effects, flange effects, distortion effects, filters, multi-tracks, from recording digital machines (they don't do from recording analog turntables, or do they?), or analog reel-to-reel tape recorders (?),
and then reproduced by our sound systems; often (most often) sounds better in a comfort of our own 'tuning' rooms, at home, and played over from our loudspeakers, with the medium(s) of our choice, at our own preferred listening volume level than 'real' live music.
Is it Acoustic, Electric, or Live? ...From a studio, from inside, from outside, or at home?
Live or Reproduced? ...What's Best?
- What is 'live' music?
1. A Rock concert at a large venue with loud an awful sound?
2. ...Or at a smaller venue with not much improved sound quality (echoes, reverberations, over-bloated bass, etc.)?
3. ...Or in a gymnasium, or a stadium, or at an arena? ...Or in a discotheque?
4. A Jazz concert in a small coffee-house, with the kitchen near by?
5. ...Or at a cabaret with people dancing on the lower stage in front of the musicians?
6. ...Or in a small hall at school?
7. A Blues concert at an alley, or in a street alley?
8. ...Or at a club or a tavern or a bar or a lounge?
9. A Classical Orchestral concert in a hall?
10. ...Or outside outdoor under a roof, like a pavilion?
11. ...Or even from a barge on the water, where you stand up across the water on the other side, on the land?
Etc., etc., etc., where from most places the sound is awful anyway. ...And you need to sit in the right row, plus no cell phones ringing or babies crying and people 'barking' and all that noisy jazz that has nothing to do with the concert anyway but it is there because it's live and it's life.
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Live music recorded (from a hall, or live venue like a jazz club, or in a studio), from a microphone, or microphones, and with a mixing/recording console, and with EQs, dynamic compressors, enhancers, sustain effects, echo effects, flange effects, distortion effects, filters, multi-tracks, from recording digital machines (they don't do from recording analog turntables, or do they?), or analog reel-to-reel tape recorders (?),
and then reproduced by our sound systems; often (most often) sounds better in a comfort of our own 'tuning' rooms, at home, and played over from our loudspeakers, with the medium(s) of our choice, at our own preferred listening volume level than 'real' live music.
Is it Acoustic, Electric, or Live? ...From a studio, from inside, from outside, or at home?
Live or Reproduced? ...What's Best?
garylkoh
WBF Technical Expert (Speakers & Audio Equipment)
Great find Gary. ...Coffeehouses (we've all been there, and some of us even performing, like I).
garylkoh
WBF Technical Expert (Speakers & Audio Equipment)
I love"Nothin' But Time" from that record. Allegedly recorded on the bus, complete with the hum of the wheels in the background. Of course that hum artfully tracks up and down with the music
. Maybe they gave the wheels their own channel so they could control the volume in the mix? Manipulations and all, "Running On Empty" is a fun "live" recording experience.Tim
Great find indeed Gary! Thanks for sharing!
Found a NM-copy on Discogs for $9.99 from a Canadian seller. From reading his feedback it looks like his grading is spot-on, so I'm encouraged.
garylkoh
WBF Technical Expert (Speakers & Audio Equipment)
Found a NM-copy on Discogs for $9.99 from a Canadian seller. From reading his feedback it looks like his grading is spot-on, so I'm encouraged.
It's not expensive and the music is great! And the way it's recorded makes it sound like you are there, which also means that it sounds NOTHING like hifi.
When I played it at CES, several audience members commented that the recording wasn't "crisp", the bass seemed to be lacking, the image wasn't good, the room is resonating why didn't you bring some room treatment, etc. etc.
But when you are sitting in the audience listening to a rock group playing in a school canteen (tiffin room to the English), this is exactly what it sounds like. Most "live" recordings are close-miked affairs with audience sound mixed in by the engineers. Totally unlike what live music sounds like.
garylkoh
WBF Technical Expert (Speakers & Audio Equipment)
Thanks, Greg. I love all of Jimmy Smith's live albums. It's Necessary being one of my favorite albums of all time.
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