We’ve had at least two complete changes of the guard since the Modernists and the work of Beethoven is still with us. I’m sure that his work will out-survive the words of the writer in the journal Peter quoted and also many other ideas and words including our own.Carl, that's immaterial. Beethoven comes before the great post modernist deconstruction of modern society. Therefore its tainted by association w the old guard, and all its imperial faults.
And since Beethoven is the greatest of the great, he's the one that needs to be pulled down the hardest.
It's as simple as that.
God help us all if that's allowed to happen.
They do symphonies outside that are free in some places. When I lived in Missoula is was always a big draw. The issue was they would play stupid pop stuff the whole time so I never cared.
Shakespeare on the campus outside for free was always popular. I however have yet to appreciate Shakespeare and have no issues with saying maybe a woman wrote it all
As long as he doesn't keep extending this to other body parts, i am okay with this...
Yeah I am not understanding how the Americans on this forum have only two categories, audio or politics. There is nothing political about this. Nothing related to your constitutional rights either.
And I was curious to know if others here had heard about it and what they thought. Thank you Tim for bringing it to my attention. With two daughters in school, I am interested in learning more about what is being taught and more specifically, how art history is being taught. I was an art history major is college before studying architecture. Music, art, and architecture live beyond the lives of those who created them. We should try to better understand these creative forces and their creations rather than try to erase them from history.
I share the concern that drives your interest in how topics such as art history are taught and passed on to your daughters.
I was surprised to see your creation of this thread which I appreciate - I don't know if I'd have the courage to raise its issue overtly given the forum proscription on the political or the potentially political or the even getting close to something that might be political. I figured my singular comment elsewhere could be deleted. If even that could bring to light the topic we're now talking around, then it's worth a hand slap. It is a shame because where else can or should such discussions occur? When should decorum take precedence over cultural black-out? Who is to blame if we remain silent?
Beethoven himself may have held what some might call political thoughts. There was a time when Napolean was a hero to the composer. He was considering giving the name "Bonaparte" to what we know as his Symphony No.3 (Sinfonia Eroica), having wrtten "Sinfonia intitolata Bonaparte' on its original manuscript cover page. After Napolean attacked Austria and upon learning that he declared himself Emperor, Beethoven marked out that title, giving it the name we now know. Would the monarchical (and later revolutionary) European world of that time have repudiated Bethoven and his music, if he'd kept the original title? When is art worthy of destruction? On a political whim?
This year marks the 250th anniversary of Beethoven's birth. In 2016 the German government declared Beethoven a "matter of national importance" and allocated 27,000,000 euros toward anniversary celebrations. Beethoven is a cultural "asset" in Germany and to Germans. (cf. here) Some may claim he is a cultural asset of humanity, an exemplar of what a singular human can achieve in the face of extreme adversity and disability. That he becomes anathema is a repudiation of the potential of mankind, of ourselves.
edit: correct anniversary date
I remember reading how the members of Deep Purple, particularly Jon Lord, organist, was a student of Bach's music. The group did some interesting collaborations with classical orchestras. Picasso knew how to draw formal figures. These artists learned a foundation and then moved beyond it to create their own expressions.
Al M., Madfloyd, and I have attended student performances and seen how many good musicians are out there. Frankly, we are surprised by and have discussed the sheer amount of talent out there. Perhaps we are exposed to it because Boston has a concentration of superb young musicians, classical and otherwise.
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