Many times...perhaps why I am not dying to see it...I know it too well already I loved Blade Runner 2049 though by him...great sequel.
Dune (2020) / Directed by Denis Villeneuve ... Starring Timothee Chalamet
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Everything Denis touches is gold: Prisoners, Arrival, Blade Runner.......Dune is just as good.
Just back from seeing it on the BIG screen with Dolby Atmos and it’s stunning Both visually and aurally, best cinema sound I’ve heard.
Didn‘t feel like 160 mins long and just moves along at a great pace. I don’t understand people saying it was confusing but I’ve not read the book or seen the other version in full. I rank it up there with Avatar, Arrival and 2001.
Blue58
Didn‘t feel like 160 mins long and just moves along at a great pace. I don’t understand people saying it was confusing but I’ve not read the book or seen the other version in full. I rank it up there with Avatar, Arrival and 2001.
Blue58
Totally agree. Saw it yesterday in NYC. Excellent cinematography, casting, acting, directing...everything!! Didn;t look at my watch once! As far as Timothy Chalumet, i didn't particular like him in 2017's Call Me By Your Name for which he was nominated for an Oscar, but he's riveting here. No doubt he will have a long and successful career.
Only one thing I don't get about Dune, The year is 10,000+ something. So let me see if I got it right. In all the fight and battle scenes where thousands are engaged in hand to hand combat, everyone uses knives and swords. WTF? Nobody ever heard of a gun 8000 years in the future? I guess some sort of ban on firearms occurred in the late 21st century that must have persisted for thousands of years into the future. You might want to buy a few shipments of AK-47's now and keep them in storage for a few millennia. You'll make a fortune!!
In this universe' future they developed personal shield technology that rendered projectile weapons obsolete. These shields also react to lasers by going nuclear if they meet. With the shields a fast attack is repelled but a slow moving object can get through. The art of combat then is quick defense, smooth offense. So guns are still present but used only by "primitive" folks like the Fremen where a gun figures in the last few scenes of Part 1 where Paul gets a hold of one but Channi says thee would't have let him fire it.
Excellent. Thanks Jack. Somehow I missed that in the movie.In this universe' future they developed personal shield technology that rendered projectile weapons obsolete. These shields also react to lasers by going nuclear if they meet. With the shields a fast attack is repelled but a slow moving object can get through. The art of combat then is quick defense, smooth offense. So guns are still present but used only by "primitive" folks like the Fremen where a gun figures in the last few scenes of Part 1 where Paul gets a hold of one but Channi says thee would't have let him fire it.
Shields make projectile weapons obsolete. Only slow weapons can get through the shields like correctly timed attacks with knives and swords. Laser weapons exist as well (Lasguns) but they are not commonly used because interactions with shields can create Nuclear weapons levels of explosions from the interactions (according to the book).
The year is actually 10161 AG (after Guild). The real time is more than 25,000 years from now. What is interesting is that on Dune the shields are not very effective due to the sand storms. Baron Harkonnen uses artillery to trap the remnants of Duke Leto's army in caves. He considers this a stroke of genius because no one considers projectile weapons (even big explosive ones) a valid way to fight in that era and he revives it due to the local situation on Arrakis. This is probably not shown in the movie.
Also, the Fremen have some kind of projectile weapons that they use (called Maula pistols) in the book because shields in the desert are useless.
Since the Sardukar know that in the desert it is largely unshielded they go crazy (again in the book...haven't seen this version of the movie yet) with Lasguns and launch a pogrom to obliterate the Fremen. The Fremen use some tricks with shields to fight back by planting one where it is likely to be set off by a lasgun to kill a bunch of Sardaukar (again in the book).
THey tried a mini-series for this but it was too low budget and not that interesting. If Denis could have done it...
Dune is set in the year 10191. Before that the humanity waged an epic war for survival against A.I. called the Butlerian Jihad (as it was a holy war led by a woman named Serena Butler). To avoid this mistake people resigned from any sort of AI and ingested Spice to expand their own mental capacities to serve as human computers called “Mentats.” Thufir Hawat and Piter de Vries are two such beings. Paul received Mentats training too btw, but it is not mentioned in the film.
Shields (either personal shields, or those used to protect ships/buildings) are basically forcefields. They will stop anything fast, but are vulnerable to slow objects. Hence, maula pistols or other rifles are ineffective. Only a slow-moving, close blade or a slow-moving dart can penetrate the shield. In fact, a lot of sword/knife fighting is ineffective, unless the fighters slow their weapons down to penetrate the shield - otherwise it will bounce off.
There are some guns in Dune, but not many. They are sometimes used by Fremen a) because they are not that technologically advanced b) as the shields are not working properly on Arrakis due to excess of sand.
Yes its the shields that have removed the effectiveness of personal projectile weapons.
Thanks for that information. I am a Dune dodo. Totally forgot anything I thought I knew years ago from the book and movie.
Honestly, I was kind of surprised I remembered those things. It's funny how you sometimes store so much of utterly irrelevant information, but you cannot remember what your wife told you to get in the store 20 minutes before.
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